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Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code

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Post by Macha » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:32 AM UTC

lolive wrote: post #47

I have been a moderate user of Obsidian in the past. And have just read the main page of Dendron. I do not see how Dendron helps navigate in a big PKM base any differently from Obsidian. There is a search bar, and a graph view. Then what?

For many people, "Obsidian, but open source", would be a pretty compelling selling point. I only became aware of Dendron today, but going to have to evaluate it now

Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code

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Post by lolive » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:40 AM UTC

Macha wrote: post #61

lolive wrote: post #47

I have been a moderate user of Obsidian in the past. And have just read the main page of Dendron. I do not see how Dendron helps navigate in a big PKM base any differently from Obsidian. There is a search bar, and a graph view. Then what?

For many people, "Obsidian, but open source", would be a pretty compelling selling point. I only became aware of Dendron today, but going to have to evaluate it now

Yep, I agree. To me it is the "Your instance is always here in the cloud, via CodeServer", that is appealing. I also plan to use that CodeServer stuff so a team can edit in parallel the same PKM. [btw, is there a collaborative way of working, in Obsidian?]

But my initial question was whether Dendron was providing an innovative way to extract subparts of the graph.

Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code

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Post by scriptautomate » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:42 AM UTC

IAmEveryone wrote: post #38

bberenberg wrote: post #23

Is there an app this where the editor is WYSIWYG but the storage format is Markdown? Almost like Confluence from a UI perspective but for a personal KB?

I've configured VSCode for this purpose. You can set a proportional font, at which point you are already halfway there. The default syntax highlighting already assigns scopes for headlines, bold/underline/italics, lists, code blocks and links, and it is either easy or default to style the text accordingly.

Nice. Do you have any links to configs or guides on setting up these modifications?

Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code

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Post by Waterluvian » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:44 AM UTC

Can someone help me understand what is useful about the graph part of it? When do you practically use that?

Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code

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Post by Barrin92 » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:50 AM UTC

bberenberg wrote: post #23

Is there an app this where the editor is WYSIWYG but the storage format is Markdown? Almost like Confluence from a UI perspective but for a personal KB?

there's also https://logseq.com/

Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code

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Post by iansinnott » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:53 AM UTC

Waterluvian wrote: post #64

Can someone help me understand what is useful about the graph part of it? When do you practically use that?

As someone who uses PKM tools I'll say the answer is probably that you _do not_ use the graph view. It makes for nice screenshots.

That being said, part of what makes PKM tools so useful is that they can be used be different people with different workflows, so perhaps other people are using the graph view effectively.

Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code

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Post by throwaway675309 » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 1:58 AM UTC

jlkuester7 wrote: post #16

I really wanted to like this the last time I gave it a try, but it just did not do it for me. I though I would like it being a VS Code plugin since "why reinvent a .md editor", but the end result felt pretty janky. Plenty of power features, but they were not particularly intuitive to use.... I ended up finding https://logseq.com/ and have been very happy using that as a local application! I really like its balance of…

I'm strongly considering moving away from Obsidian to Logseq, obsidian just has some limitations that I think I can work around in Logseq (insufficient syntax highlighting due to old integrated version of prismjs being one issue for ex).

I have sincere doubts that Obsidian will ever go open source.

Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code

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Post by ropeladder » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 2:05 AM UTC

I've been using Dendron since it last showed up here and it's worked pretty well for a large writing project. My main complaint is more of a VS Code issue -- I can't figure out how to soft-wrap lines in a way that allows for vim navigation (with j/k) within a paragraph. Gj and gk work, but that's double the keystrokes. In Vim I can use the vim-pencil plugin and set lines to soft wrap.

Also, Dendron is very clunky with even medium-sized files.

Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code

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Post by cyanydeez » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 2:13 AM UTC

beebeepka wrote: post #31

gorgabal wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parent comment didn't say anything about this extension. He just asserted that PKM is an already in-use term.

Which was a response to me talking about this specific extension.

pkm is the term. if its pompous, its not because they created it

Re: Dendron: A personal knowledge management solution built on VS Code

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Post by seanw444 » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 2:32 AM UTC

slk500 wrote: post #21

emacs+org-mode

I don't know if I'll ever find a cooler, more interactive, intuitive, and featureful markdown language and implementation. I use it daily to track issues and progress at work. I use it to document the code, because it can be exported to really any format necessary.

I mean come on, the table editor and Babel still make me grin every time I use them. Truly genius.