Oh come on everybody, this is a PR pseudo-advertisement for Veritone. The piece neglects to acknowledge that auto-dubbing is already a thing. No longer research has highly accurate voice synthesis of any specific voice with very limited source material. Realistic voice synthesis is very actively researched, and is already well into auto deep fake territory.
AI could end foreign-language subtitles
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Re: AI could end foreign-language subtitles
#42This would be a lovely option to have and I find it hilarious that anyone imagines that subtitles are some kind of problem we are trying to get out of. Adding text to movies has a huge array of advantages: it preserves the original performances, it makes the dialog accessible to people with hearing or auditory processing disabilities, they can be multiplexed in a way that audio cannot, etc. Obviously it would be wond…
> I find it hilarious that anyone imagines that subtitles are some kind of problem we are trying to get out of.
I think there's a lot of gatekeeping about this. People - perhaps rightfully so - believe subtitled versions to be more ... "pure" than dubbed versions.
I don't watch any language dubbed movies, but I wouldn't chide anyone who did. Not everyone wants to spend the whole two hours glancing up and down across the screen, nor are they necessarily wanting to learn a language passively, etc.
So I think there's absolutely a perceived problem, it just doesn't apply to all viewers.
Re: AI could end foreign-language subtitles
#43This would be a lovely option to have and I find it hilarious that anyone imagines that subtitles are some kind of problem we are trying to get out of. Adding text to movies has a huge array of advantages: it preserves the original performances, it makes the dialog accessible to people with hearing or auditory processing disabilities, they can be multiplexed in a way that audio cannot, etc. Obviously it would be wond…
I love subtitles, but for me they tend to spoil the timing of the lines being delivered, especially with comedy. Unfortunately subtitles are necessary even when I'm able to play audio as loud as I want, because it's almost always hard to understand at least 10-20% of the words that actors are saying.
Maybe it would be nice to have subtitles that appear a word at a time as they are spoken, but I imagine that's not very practical for various reasons.
Re: AI could end foreign-language subtitles
#44My wife is a translator and based on our conversations and her experience, subtitles are needed because people want to have the original audio + text, foreign subtitles are needed for obvious reasons, and human translators are needed for the "tricky" parts like new words and expressions, cultural context expressions, stuff that can't be directly translated, among other things.
That's why in many countries a translated piece counts as a new/original piece, and the translator has the rights to claim some of the books IP.
Re: AI could end foreign-language subtitles
#45This would be a lovely option to have and I find it hilarious that anyone imagines that subtitles are some kind of problem we are trying to get out of. Adding text to movies has a huge array of advantages: it preserves the original performances, it makes the dialog accessible to people with hearing or auditory processing disabilities, they can be multiplexed in a way that audio cannot, etc. Obviously it would be wond…
Coming from a non english country I can assure you that dubbing is the worst. When we were kids we would actively avoid watching anything that was dubbed as soon as we could read. It’s actually funny seeing how frustrated with subtitles my American girlfriend gets when we watch anything foreign. “You mean this basic skill every 7 year old has is hard for you, an educated super smart 30 year old? Bwahahaha” I still pr…
> I still prefer watching everything with subtitles. Actors mumble a lot.
Yep I have no problems hearing but newer movies and shows have uneven mixing where it can get really hard to hear over the background noise and subtitles come in clutch constantly for that
Re: AI could end foreign-language subtitles
#46About as likely as I am to sit through a blockbuster with my friends and family deepfaked onto the cast.
That sounds like a lot of fun. Especially if you can change/correct character position and posture.
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Re: AI could end foreign-language subtitles
#48This would be a lovely option to have and I find it hilarious that anyone imagines that subtitles are some kind of problem we are trying to get out of. Adding text to movies has a huge array of advantages: it preserves the original performances, it makes the dialog accessible to people with hearing or auditory processing disabilities, they can be multiplexed in a way that audio cannot, etc. Obviously it would be wond…
In my country (Sweden) subtitles are the norm for imported content, with most of that content being in English.
I believe that reading the Swedish subtitles and hearing the English words simultaneously have played a large role in helping Swedes to learn English.
However, it does help a lot that the grammar of Swedish and English is relatively similar. I have been trying to use watching anime to get better at Japanese, and the different word-order and clause-order in the spoken Japanese to the subtitles have often tripped me up — especially when longer sentences have got broken up into multiple subtitles.
Re: AI could end foreign-language subtitles
#49Most people here said it already; that would be a very bad development imho. But one that will happen as, at least in my distributed developer team (all continents, many countries) everyone young hates reading; chat, email, books, subtitles; they all hate it and want to listen and talk, not read & write. So it makes sense. Hope there will be choice always; I grew up with English movies with Dutch subtitles which taught me English and saw, at the same time, how awful it was to watch Rambo saying 'Ich bin John Rambo' with a flinty German dubbed voice. The horror.
Re: AI could end foreign-language subtitles
#50This would be a lovely option to have and I find it hilarious that anyone imagines that subtitles are some kind of problem we are trying to get out of. Adding text to movies has a huge array of advantages: it preserves the original performances, it makes the dialog accessible to people with hearing or auditory processing disabilities, they can be multiplexed in a way that audio cannot, etc. Obviously it would be wond…
Agree. Dolby Atmos releases tend to have a lot of noisy background sounds all around you, and then people silently mumble on the center channel. My English is really good, but some movies are still difficult to watch without subtitles. For example, Hawkeye jumped in between "painfully loud effects" and "barely audible dialog".