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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I don't know if it was inevitable, but I do not share a sentiment here. Supporting domain mail with web interface and services around is costs resources, and Google have no obligation spending it forever. It was a nice gift and I feel grateful. I also feel it is a perfect time to try out new CloudFlare's domain email forwarding service, while it is free.

Where are you planning to forward email to?

My primary Gmail address.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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> Yet, over the years, these accounts are just worse than free personal Google accounts. Because we are not a business, there is absolutely no benefit to these accounts whatsoever other than the custom domain. In fact, we can't even use the new version of Google Pay. It only works with free accounts! I now feel that this was a favor in disguise: Google spent so many years blocking Domains accounts from new services t…

I am kind of in the same position. I have 4 people using our custom domain for email only given the pain google put on these accounts. They've each setup their custom domain email account to forward to their individual free gmail accounts. Does anyone have a recommendation for a new email service I can point my domain MX records at? I only need email forwarding for these 4 users using my domain and a catchall email f…

Some domain registrars provide this service for free.

I've always used a this setup, have my personal domain forward all mail to google, and I have my address with domain set up in gmail. Also, I think that's no longer an option - I realised a while ago, I couldn't add any more...

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I knew something like this would probably come, but it doesn't make it any better. Complete BS. 16 years ago me and my friends signed up for "GMail for your domain". That's it. We wanted to use GMail, which was by far the best email available at the time, and have email addresses at our own domain instead of @gmail.com. That's it. Since that time several of us have been using our GFYD/GSuite/Workspaces accounts as ou…

> personal accounts with custom domain, iCloud offers that feature now.

For $1/month

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201238

Cheaper than Google's $6/month but not free.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Why migrate to Fastmail for $5/user, if one can keep their installation of G Suite for $6/user?

1) You can stop feeding personal data into the Google (advertisement) ecosystem 2) Google is notorious for killing off services or changing their agreements at a moments notice like here so there is a chance they'll drop their offering or increase prices. 3) Google support is either terrible or nonexistent (unless you're lucky enough to get your complaint to the HN frontpage). I'm an affected user and I plan to put i…

1) Business accounts aren't used for advertising.

2) Not paid business accounts.

3) Not for paid business accounts.

For 20 years people have complained of 1,2,3 for free accounts, and said that they'd prefer to pay to avoid these issues. Now that there's an option....

https://workspace.google.com/learn-more/security/security-wh...

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Our philosophy Google Workspace customers own their customer data, not Google. Customer data that Google Workspace organizations put into our systems is theirs, and we do not scan it for advertisements. We offer our customers a detailed Data Processing Amendment that describes our commitment to protecting customer data. Furthermore, if customers delete their data, we commit to deleting it from our systems within 180 days.

No advertising in Google Workspace There is no advertising in the Google Workspace Core Services, and we have no plans to change this in the future. Google does not collect, scan or use data in Google Workspace Core Services for advertising purposes. Customer administrators can restrict access to Non-Core Services from the Google Workspace Admin console. Google indexes customer data to provide beneficial services, such as spam filtering, virus detection, spellcheck and the ability to search for emails and files within an individual account.

Limited data use

Google does not use any of your data for any purpose except to provide you with the relevant Google Workspace service. For example, when customers use the Cloud Translation API, Google will not make the content of the text that you send available to the public, or share it with anyone else, except as necessary to provide the Cloud Translation API service.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Either become a nonprofit or delete the account in G Suite and recreate it as a free regular Google account after the domain name has been removed from G Suite.

> recreate it as a free regular Google account after the domain name has been removed from G Suite How though? Create x@gmail.com and copy your old emails into it, change your domain settings to stop pointing to G Suite and forward x@example.com to x@gmail.com instead, cancel your example.com G Suite and your email should still be working.... But then what happens to apps and Android login that are connected to your…

It is said that the core services will stop working. Google Photos, YouTube and purchases/subscriptions are not considered as core services.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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They make it incredibly difficult to manage domains. DNS is managed via a third party like enom. Enom itself just had an outage recently that affected all G Suite users [0]. Transferring your domain to another registrar is opaque to say the least. Arguably, these things, in combination, could be considered a dark pattern. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29963713

My email provider doesn’t have control of my domain. In my registrars settings I just put my email providers server addresses where they told me to and I’m under the impression that if my email provider ever jerked me around I could just go in there and change those server addresses to someone else’s with no input needed from my email provider. Did google do something different with these accounts? I didn’t even thin…

Google is a domain registrar since 2005 [0]. But that service was launched for public use in 2015. Before that though, Google used third parties (mainly Enom and GoDaddy) to provide domain registration for the public.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Domains

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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What are some (paid) alternatives to using G-Suite for emails? Context: We're a small but relatively old SaaS company. Been happily using G Suite's free tier since day 1 - only for email. This announcement is a tad disappointing, but as other commenters have said, 10 years of a free product is pretty great. We'll likely upgrade to Google's paid tier, but out of curiosity, since we're switching to a paid service, we m…

If you’re not using the productivity suite (docs, drive, sheets and whatnot) why not go with the little guy and use Fastmail? $5/user with 30gb or 100gb per user for $9/month Their support replies faster than google :)

Does Fastmail do mailing lists? That's the one thing I use in GSuite other than the basic email.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I'm definitely getting screwed over by this. I've hosted close friend's and family's email for a decade now on an old G Apps instance. We only ever used it for email on a custom domain. It was most useful because I could reset passwords for them if they forgot it. Now I'm going to have to figure out what to do. Microsoft's Family offering is way better (not saying much considering Google doesn't have one). Right now…

Something I just discovered is that Office 365 Family only lets you use custom domains if they are hosted by GoDaddy. If you want to use another domain registrar you have to get Microsoft 365 Business, which has a similar price as Google Workspace :(

There's no way I'm moving my domain to GoDaddy.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I'm one of the people affected. Over the years I've created multiple accounts most with multiple aliases on top of that. I would have a separate account for recruiters and job hunting, separate one for logging into sensitive accounts, separate one for each of the countries in which I've spend more time, etc, etc

Now I would need to start spending ~$90 + VAT (?) per month to keep this setup going. Anyone with a similar situation? Any services you could recommend to migrate to?

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