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Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Oh. So making them not dependent on losing 8 hours of their work per weekday to a boss, and giving them freedom to do what they like in that time, isn't making their lives worse? But if the same state is achieved by a poor person then...? I would agree that also not needing to be available for a boss at all , even "just in case something goes wrong", is better, but that doesn't seem to be the argument. Rather, that a…

Dude you're a fool if you don't think rich people put in hours and hours of work. They're almost never not working. Their entire lives typically revolve around work and nothing else. You might have a point if you're talking trust fund babies but those people are miserable because they do nothing. They're not happy. The vast majority of wealth is not handed down. >Rather, that attaining freedom from being told what to…

> Dude you're a fool if you don't think rich people put in hours and hours of work. They're almost never not working. Their entire lives typically revolve around work and nothing else.

This is most people, rich or not. The rich just don't have to do work they aren't enthusiastically choosing to do. The ~50% of normal folks' work that they're not paid to do—property maintenance, the boring kind of shopping, cooking, driving themselves and others around, fighting with insurance, keeping a schedule and making appointments, cleaning, childcare, et c.—are, tellingly, the kind of work that rich folks typically pay others to do for them. What remains is work that is done purely by choice. Not only no boss, but no personal work that isn't done by choice. That's the difference. The "idle" poor still have more work imposed on them—work they cannot avoid doing—than the "idle" rich, by a long shot.

So again: rich folks can have little to no work imposed on them (and in fact pay to avoid nearly all such imposition) and that's fine, but if poor people are in the situation of having merely a substantial part, but nowhere near all, of their required-work burden removed, that may be a bad thing for them and we should worry? That seems odd. My "idle rich" quip has you responding as if I've attacked something sacred, because, as you state, most of those folks stay plenty busy, but if that's the case, what's the motivation for worrying about poor people not being able to do the same?

It's also the case that having lots of money means being able to turn hobbies into "work", and maybe even money-making ventures, without ever having to do the parts you don't want to. That looks an awful lot like play, even if it's producing an income. Which, to be clear, I think is fine. Shit, that's exactly where I, and probably most people, want to be. The part where I get lost is when poor people gaining a fraction of that freedom is worrisome.

> Do you understand how this is achieved at all???? BY HARD WORK. Go out and create something of your own, no one is stopping you. If you think it's not going to be work I've got news for you. No one is going to just give you this freedom, nor should they because it would then be meaningless.

Where, exactly, the fuck, did I claim that getting rich if you're not already rich is not, typically, very hard work?

> I'm sorry but you just sound incredibly young, naive, and lacking in any real world experience.

This is perhaps the most appropriate time I've ever employed this: I'm rubber, you're glue.

[EDIT] Are we using very different definitions of rich, perhaps? I find this exchange baffling enough that I'm beginning to wonder if we're operating from entirely different terms. I wouldn't consider anyone who'd suffer a large drop in quality of life if they decided to stop working for several normally-work-aged years, to be rich. That's what I mean by rich. Not an entrepreneur with a whopping mid-seven-figures in the bank, or the owner of a modestly successful local chain of stores, or anything like that. People who hang out at expensive parts of the "Med" and ski the Alps annually, despite living in the US, who could afford a very nice new car every month if they decided that's what they wanted, keep a personal staff on payroll, and, crucially, who don't need to work to keep doing that kind of thing indefinitely, are rich. Fussell's "upper" and "top-out-of-sight", not his "upper-middle" (who may do much of the above, but can't keep doing it without continuing to work) and certainly not anything lower than that.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Your company ran a paid hackathon? Were you able to do whatever you want? Or was it a crunch to get a project launched?

Yep, paid hackathon, but participation was voluntary. There were a few limitations: * It had to directly relate to the product. * You could not use the time to work on some existing project. * You had to be able to finish it by the end of the hackathon. Hackathon projects were sometimes adopted by a permanent team, if there was a good fit.

How many incidents did those nice new features cause?

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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I once almost completely automated my job, and didn't hide it. The job was to load data files into the backend system. The problem was there there were almost as many formats (~80) as there were partners sending data (~120), not just in structure but in content (deltas, full replace, etc.). This job was burning people out every 6 months, and I was the hapless next victim who was just looking to break into a tech posi…

re: the performance review: don't know about your work place, but the first quarterly review I got at [insert name of large known company], my manger sat me down and explained she is budgeted a certain amount of bonus points for her 5 team members, and required to "grade on a curve". Hence, 1 team member will be "above average", 3 will be "average", and one "below average" every quarter. And for fairness, she rotates…

I worked at a company that operated like that. Each manager could only put in so many high marks.

Company had something like 5000 employees.

I felt good that I often got the highest mark, but others were doing well too, they deserved more.

I finally asked my boss, he told me.

“I figured out that other being told in an email how to award perf reviews… nobody checks… so I give everyone the highest reward.”

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Many subreddits are simply themed containers of creative writing. With all the media attention the AntiWork subreddit has gotten lately that brings more karma farmers and therefore more fiction. It's an entertaining read, but not likely true.

Back in 2013, as part of my consultancy services, I built a simple email support site for a client, whose most difficult part was just a background job (mailman) that would need to pull emails from different providers and send emails through them, as per replied by this client's support reps. The customer wanted a sort of custom service rather than using Zendesk or something, because he was providing a "outsourced su…

> So, yes it's possible IMO,

All of these highly-upvoted Reddit stories have the same few things in common:

1) They're vague enough to be possible. If it's too outlandish, people will call it out.

2) Verifiable or falsifiable specifics are conveniently omitted. This is easy to justify due to the anonymity.

3) They have an element of good guy versus bad guy, where the reader can empathize with the person telling the story but can also accept the counterparty (the company, boss, whatever) as the "bad guy" without feeling bad about it. These subreddits are built on the premise that companies and bosses are bad, so anything that fits that narrative is welcomed without question.

Basically, the stories are vague enough that they can't be falsified, but there are so many of them with so many convenient details falling perfectly in to place for the poster that it's extremely unlikely that all, or even most, of them are real stories. In the past, people would dig through the Reddit poster's history and often find conflicting posts (e.g. someone claiming to be a programmer in one post, then claiming to be unemployed somewhere else), but lately Reddit is such high-volume and fast-moving that nobody really cares to check anything. If it sounds good, it gets an upvote.

Take it all with a grain of salt. It may sound plausible or "truthy", but you never know which stories are real and which are just someone's creative writing exercise.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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It could be. But this is Hacker News so it often means something hacker-related.

Random philosophy stuff is like the #2 most common type of article submitted here

Is it the #2 most common passion project here though.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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I once almost completely automated my job, and didn't hide it. The job was to load data files into the backend system. The problem was there there were almost as many formats (~80) as there were partners sending data (~120), not just in structure but in content (deltas, full replace, etc.). This job was burning people out every 6 months, and I was the hapless next victim who was just looking to break into a tech posi…

re: the performance review: don't know about your work place, but the first quarterly review I got at [insert name of large known company], my manger sat me down and explained she is budgeted a certain amount of bonus points for her 5 team members, and required to "grade on a curve". Hence, 1 team member will be "above average", 3 will be "average", and one "below average" every quarter. And for fairness, she rotates…

As someone who’s worked and managed in that type of environment and later left that world to start small companies, I was very glad, that this corporate insanity made it possible to hire great individuals away from big corporations.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Many subreddits are simply themed containers of creative writing. With all the media attention the AntiWork subreddit has gotten lately that brings more karma farmers and therefore more fiction. It's an entertaining read, but not likely true.

> Many subreddits are simply themed containers of creative writing. With all the media attention the AntiWork subreddit has gotten lately that brings more karma farmers and therefore more fiction. It's an entertaining read, but not likely true.

Exactly. Don't underestimate the volume of fake stories posted to Reddit.

I tried giving advice in several computer career subreddits for years. I was always stunned by the volume of obviously fake stories people would post about their boss or company or coworkers. Many of them are easy to debunk with even the slightest attention to detail or a quick browse of the user's posting history.

I could barely believe how frequently I'd read a post with some oddities, only to check the poster's history and see 5 different creative writing style lies posted to other subreddits with entirely different details. A lot of people really like using Reddit to create fake outrage stories, because it's a trivially easy way to collect a lot of upvotes and internet sympathy points.

Very strange phenomenon.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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I once almost completely automated my job, and didn't hide it. The job was to load data files into the backend system. The problem was there there were almost as many formats (~80) as there were partners sending data (~120), not just in structure but in content (deltas, full replace, etc.). This job was burning people out every 6 months, and I was the hapless next victim who was just looking to break into a tech posi…

That’s a bit sad, the way you told the story sound like you didn’t make the place better even though you could have.

Just once I would like to read one of these stories where the conclusion is "and the company rewarded me with a large bonus and a paid two weeks of leave, and when I came back they had lined up some training and a project plan for me to stabilise what I had built and automate as much of the drudgery as possible"

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Wow. I need to step my game up... I've been working 4 jobs SWE roles remotely (3 full time, 1 part time) for several years now. I have to admit that the most challenging aspect of working multiple jobs is finding the right balance of working hard enough at each job just to get by. Automating a lot of the busy work sounds challenging for more hands on technical roles. I may need to take some pay cuts to find easier ro…

I've done this as well, multiple swe jobs, I also did not find ways to automate. Just trying to get a little something done every day to report in the stand ups is what I did. Most teams are so low performing it was easy. Every so often a new manager would come along and make my life hell then I'd have to move on.
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