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Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Post by asdfasgasdgasdg »

raxxorrax wrote: post #194
asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #108

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I suppose. I can't say that the interests of these groups are particularly close to my heart. Certainly if I was a game dev I wouldn't be willing to pass up a chance to substantially increase revenue to make life easier for an archivist. To the extent that there is any value in the history of this game, I think most of it will be sufficiently captured in the large amount of video content being produced about it.

Do you increase revenue with hard DRM measures? I believe it depends. I did pass games because of their DRM requirements and that includes Blizzard for the last few years. They don't need my money as they were doing fine, but their obnoxious battle net certainly drove me away. Same is true with a lot of other developer specific platforms. I accept some because they provide added value, but the vast majority of DRM do…

> Do you increase revenue with hard DRM measures?

Game devs believe that these measures benefit revenue enough that they keep on adding them, despite significant technical and reputational cost. So, absent evidence to the contrary, I suspect the answer is "yes."

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Post by acdha »

ddtaylor wrote: post #200
acdha wrote: post #81

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> With regards to the whole "30 days offline" thing - this was well known way ahead of launch. If this was true, wouldn’t it be listed on the sale page?

It is listed on the sale page: https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us/product/diablo_ii_resurrect... > Internet connection, Battle.net® desktop app and Battle.net® Account required to play.

That wording is why I said it didn't — note that it doesn't say anything about the offline mode at all.

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Post by AlwaysRock »

hajile wrote: post #196
AlwaysRock wrote: post #181

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You are making a case for why games have gotten worse based on money? Video game comapnies make far more money now than they ever have in the future. The market is also larger than its ever been.

If we’re comparing apples to apples, you’d expect a 2.5D platform from an indie developer with only a handful of people to cost $60. Speaking of markets, doom 1 sold 4M copies. The best selling hardcore gamer game is grand theft auto V with 155M copies sold. That’s a bit less than 40x the number of sales for doom (next best is red dead redemption 2 at 39M or 10x). 9 people in total developed doom. 1,000 people worked…

You are comparing initial retail sale values and not accounting for major money makers for gaming comapanies, virtual currency and micro transactions. Doom does have whales. GTAV has people who have spent thousands+ on GTAV online.

This is the differance. This is why so many companies pump games full of microtransactions. They don't care about the average player spending 60 dollars on the game. They want the 1 in 100 or 1000 or 10000 whales who spend 2500 to 50K on the game.

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Post by baq »

nomel wrote: post #174
baq wrote: post #57

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yes. it is to line publisher's pockets. it's a nuisance for both developers and users.

> it is to line publisher's pockets. Which is the reason the games were funded.

note that lining pockets is much more than preventing piracy. that is just a narrative.

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Post by cultofmetatron »

sph wrote: post #154
rjzzleep wrote: post #3

Diablo 2 resurrected was the most infuriating experience I have had. I bought it in the Switch store against my better judgment, partly because in their support forum they said that offline mode would of course always be offline. For the first few days people could hardly even start the game, I tried to return it right away, because it's basically a bricked game at this point, but Nintendo doesn't want to refund swit…

Stop giving these hacks money, it's fucking easy. I love Diablo 2, but the current Actiblizzard can go bankrupt before I enable their shitty practices and my purchase figures on some MBA's slide as a positive signal that customers are happy, let's keep doing what we're doing . Yes, that's what your $50 you've written off are doing. It's not rocket science, especially in the current golden age of gaming, where there's…

if you're looking for a good alternative to diablo, I highly recommend the torchlight series

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Post by pests »

pfraze wrote: post #82
wayoutthere wrote: post #28

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Most of their IP is dead at this point; Warcraft is a dead horse they’ve been beating for the last decade, StarCraft is effectively abandoned, and Diablo 3 was a blatant cash grab from day 1 with a mediocre game behind it. Hearthstone and Overwatch are doing ok as esports but those aren’t the Blizzard IP I actually like. To think that any future games will be better than what we’ve gotten over the last decade is just…

Overwatch league is kind of hosed right now because of the weird shenanigans around OW2. Last I heard, they were planning on dropping team sizes by 1 (so a bunch of pros are getting fired) and they also planned to have next years league play the unreleased OW2 beta (??). It’s in a weird place.

You are correct. OW2 is going to 5v5 (removing a tank role) and yes league will be on the OW2 client but it will still be 6v6 as OW2 won't be out yet. The change to 5v5 is requiring major character reworks and don't affect that league.

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Post by account42 »

notafraudster wrote: post #197
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #24

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Kinda, but it also incentivizes bad-faith gamers, which in turn disincentivises good-faith developers. There are a lot of games out there with a Perhaps such a system could work if it were based on a percentage of time-to-complete, but I have no idea how one would objectively determine that, especially before sale.

There is very little evidence for this. A number of developers have complained about refunds, but when looking into any of their actual cases, you see no real evidence of refund abuse, normal 2-5% refund rates, etc. In most of the cases I've seen developers complain there's been no evidence of refunds, but the games have sold poorly to begin with, and the attention from complaining in public about how mean all the re…

> And there's not really any incentive to add filler content, because adding filler content takes real development time, driving up the budget.

There are plenty of ways to pad game length with minimal additional development. Grind is very much a thing for games that benefit from longer time to completion or where a certain length is expected.

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Post by pfraze »

pests wrote: post #207
pfraze wrote: post #82

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Overwatch league is kind of hosed right now because of the weird shenanigans around OW2. Last I heard, they were planning on dropping team sizes by 1 (so a bunch of pros are getting fired) and they also planned to have next years league play the unreleased OW2 beta (??). It’s in a weird place.

You are correct. OW2 is going to 5v5 (removing a tank role) and yes league will be on the OW2 client but it will still be 6v6 as OW2 won't be out yet. The change to 5v5 is requiring major character reworks and don't affect that league.

I’d love nothing more than to see a glorious turnaround that sees OW2 become very popular, so I’m rooting for you, Microsoft/Blizzard/Activision. I’m not optimistic, but I’m hopeful.

Re: You cannot play Diablo 2 resurrected after 30 days of being offline

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Post by mdp2021 »

ddtaylor wrote: post #198
mdp2021 wrote: post #158

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The logic remains valid, and according to your interpretation stealing a car seems "not a big deal" because it comes after a murder. (They are disconnected events, so to relate them is just a mental perspective - their gravity is independent. There is no «priority» forgiving your actions, it is no excuse).

> and according to your interpretation stealing a car seems "not a big deal" because it comes after a murder. In my above example I would be guilty of both murder AND stealing cars, so yeah, I think the murder part would be a much bigger deal.

> the murder part would be a much bigger deal

Which is irrelevant, because it does not reduce the absolute value of the other crime.

"Y is a much bigger deal than X" cannot produce "X is not a big deal".

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