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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Post by TheSocialAndrew »

herodoturtle wrote: post #91

What are some (paid) alternatives to using G-Suite for emails? Context: We're a small but relatively old SaaS company. Been happily using G Suite's free tier since day 1 - only for email. This announcement is a tad disappointing, but as other commenters have said, 10 years of a free product is pretty great. We'll likely upgrade to Google's paid tier, but out of curiosity, since we're switching to a paid service, we m…

We're switching over to Zoho for our latest startup. If you have more than one Google account the switching between personal and business is a nightmare. Some features are unavailable for one or the other, and it keeps switching between the two accounts seemingly randomly. It constantly asks for a password when you want to switch back. It's more headache than it is worth to be signed in to Google.

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Post by greatpatton »

People are talking about their purchases on Google play, but that's not the main point. All the web services where you used Google as the IdP are going to be toasted if you move. You will to go through all the services you use to see how to transfer your account there. It will teach me one thing: never ever use an external IdP and always create local account.

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Post by acdha »

Apreche wrote: post #139

I knew something like this would probably come, but it doesn't make it any better. Complete BS. 16 years ago me and my friends signed up for "GMail for your domain". That's it. We wanted to use GMail, which was by far the best email available at the time, and have email addresses at our own domain instead of @gmail.com. That's it. Since that time several of us have been using our GFYD/GSuite/Workspaces accounts as ou…

> Yet, over the years, these accounts are just worse than free personal Google accounts. Because we are not a business, there is absolutely no benefit to these accounts whatsoever other than the custom domain. In fact, we can't even use the new version of Google Pay. It only works with free accounts!

I now feel that this was a favor in disguise: Google spent so many years blocking Domains accounts from new services that I never developed habits around using them. Switching away is just migrating email since they made it hard to develop any other source of inertia.

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Post by Macha »

KallDrexx wrote: post #232
yaacov wrote: post #81

> As of December 6, 2012, Google stopped offering the free edition to new customers. 10 years of a free product is not bad

It's not just that I can't use them for email anymore. I wouldn't mind that. But now I'll lose access to any purchases on my phone, my Youtube purchases and history, I need to create a new account for my phone, etc....

Maybe it's just a relic of me holding out for the Google Plus migration so long but my youtube account is a "brand account" which is definitely a thing I can transfer to another google account (indeed there were a few youtubers who got famously scammed last summer into doing this). Maybe yours is set up similarly?

Android apps will be a pain. I have apps that are no longer sold, or am grandfathered on a premium 1 time purchase for stuff that is now subscription based, etc.

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Post by chimprich »

ryandvm wrote: post #227
chimprich wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm a Google employee who just found out about this. I'm not annoyed that I have to pay, it's been ~13 years of free service and I don't think Google is obligated to continue providing this to me. Well I'm very annoyed. It's not that I might have to pay for a service, it's the unfairness of it. I've several friends and family members up with accounts on my domain to be nice to them to make life easier for them or b…

Agreed. I'm fucking livid. I don't know what their freeloader costs are on the grandfathered Google domain accounts, but I'm having a hard time believing it's going to be worth the amount of goodwill they're going to burn by shitting on their most loyal users of all. These folks have been using Google services (and presumably suggesting as much to others) for at least 10 years. But I'm not paying $100/mo so my extend…

It's basically the drug dealer business model: get people hooked for free, then start charging them a huge amount when it's too difficult for them to stop.

At least your local heroin vendor doesn't pretend it's /always/ going to be free, though...

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Post by tyingq »

Normille wrote: post #2

Is this for real? I've not received that email from Google. If so, I guess it's time to setup my own mailserver. I've been meaning to do it for a long while now anyway, as I'm not comfortable with the thought that Google is data-harvesting all my and my family's emails. But with mailservers being notoriously difficult to setup and configure securely, I keep putting it off. Time to get reading a few tutorials, methink…

>Yandex Mail for Domains [0] which [at least last time I checked] was still free

It looks like it's not free anymore. I used to see a free plan, now there are only paid ones.

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Post by waych »

Aloha wrote: post #168
jfengel wrote: post #100

Huh. I thought that was what I had, but I haven't heard this directly from them. It's the first I've heard of it. I used a microscopic subset of the features. Aside from them hosting my email, I don't think I'm any different from other users. It's just me; I'm not really a business. I notice some differences, mostly in limitations: less storage, features of my Pixel phone that sometimes don't work with that account.…

Yeah, I' in the same boat you are. I dont know if I want to pay six bucks a year for that privilege, per account. I'm giving away emails on my domain too. Most of which are not used.

Six bucks a _month_, per account.

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Post by jholman »

Aloha wrote: post #168
jfengel wrote: post #100

Huh. I thought that was what I had, but I haven't heard this directly from them. It's the first I've heard of it. I used a microscopic subset of the features. Aside from them hosting my email, I don't think I'm any different from other users. It's just me; I'm not really a business. I notice some differences, mostly in limitations: less storage, features of my Pixel phone that sometimes don't work with that account.…

Yeah, I' in the same boat you are. I dont know if I want to pay six bucks a year for that privilege, per account. I'm giving away emails on my domain too. Most of which are not used.

Six bucks per month, per account, you mean.
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