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I personally know someone who claims to have automated his work with Excel after learning how to code. He ended up telling his manager after feeling guilty. He got a promotion and eventually left the team to become a real software engineer. The rest of his team was eventually let go since they were not needed. This was at a large company you have definitely heard of. Its possible that my friend lied or exaggerated th…

A lot of industries, despite being "tech", are still just using computers to "push paper". That means a true technical person can often automate these jobs. It's real and it does happen. The thing is... most people like that are not content doing that and then fucking around all day. I've been in this position. I've shared my automation with the team I was on and the manager I had, and I got a raise. I did this at mo…

Yeah, just consider all the places where PDFs are still used instead of a more computer-appropriate format (fixed layout is generally not needed, sometimes even not for printing, and is sometimes even an hindrance, and (m)HTML can be used as a standalone file too...)

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Why woudn't studying philosophy not a passion project?

It could be. But this is Hacker News so it often means something hacker-related.

Random philosophy stuff is like the #2 most common type of article submitted here

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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A good way to make friends too.

Not the people whose jobs likely went away as a result, however.

You'd be surprised how often that isn't the outcome. It definitely does happen, but a lot of the time the company is left with a task that's now automated and an employee that's received a ton of training on the business systems. There are almost always other products that sales wants to push that there simply wasn't the bandwidth for before...

There is always more business - sometimes companies choose to put automated employees towards that (and get huge moral boosts to the employees that automated the thing - the employees that were automated - and everyone nearby who appreciates how useful automation is) and other times they decide to trim a marginal cost off the bottom line and end up discouraging further innovation and, probably, losing a lot of people they actually still need.

Companies that, essentially, get some of their labour replaced for a free (or marginal cost) should realize that there are a lot of more savings like that to be had - and that if they use that savings to invest in growth it will pay off in the future. Companies that choose stagnation die (and you should leave them to die without you as an employee).

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Many subreddits are simply themed containers of creative writing. With all the media attention the AntiWork subreddit has gotten lately that brings more karma farmers and therefore more fiction. It's an entertaining read, but not likely true.

I personally know someone who claims to have automated his work with Excel after learning how to code. He ended up telling his manager after feeling guilty. He got a promotion and eventually left the team to become a real software engineer. The rest of his team was eventually let go since they were not needed. This was at a large company you have definitely heard of. Its possible that my friend lied or exaggerated th…

Tech workers tend to under-estimate the impact that trivial automation can have on other industries. My partner 10x or more their efficiency with some simple Office macro copy-pasta from the search results of "how do I in word"

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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There's a guy named Josh Fluke on YouTube who may qualify as antiwork to you. I find him very very reasonable and a bit dangerous for pulling off the wool over the young generation's eyes. I mean dangerous for the corporate and the myths corporations have built to lure and abuse workers.

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Don't be like this: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-som...

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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For 5 months, I had a gig that involved upgrading a large CRM app. After a few weeks of yak shaving and planning, I had automated most of my tasks. It was a 6 month contract, but by the 3rd month it was basically finished. A few weeks after that, I was bored out of my mind. One day my manager called me out about "not working enough hours". 2 weeks later I was making more money at a more stable job.

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I didn't automate my job, I just did a good enough job that things stopped breaking, and I had less and less to every day. Eventually I'd just show up, make rounds, wait for things to break, make rounds again after lunch, wait until quitting time. I did try to improve the office productivity as a whole a few times by patching up the wonky database they used for accounting, but got shut down each time because of fear…

> I did try to improve the office productivity as a whole a few times by patching up the wonky database they used for accounting, but got shut down each time because of fear of change I too have found that accounting is where new ideas go to die. They don’t really understand the technology that their jobs are bound to, so any increase in perceived complexity is just a no-go.

Agreed - accountants are a unique breed. They do a fair amount of basic numeric analysis and rote work that is of the sort that is beneficial to automation. But they're often very averse to technology, often stop learning any new tools early on in their career, and tend to stick to the methods they learned as juniors, even many years later.

That's a broad brush, and is certainly unfair to and untrue of some accountants. Some are Excel gods and can VBA it up with the best of them, and would have been productive software engineers in another life. But it's surprisingly true for much of the profession.

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I didn't automate my job, I just did a good enough job that things stopped breaking, and I had less and less to every day. Eventually I'd just show up, make rounds, wait for things to break, make rounds again after lunch, wait until quitting time. I did try to improve the office productivity as a whole a few times by patching up the wonky database they used for accounting, but got shut down each time because of fear…

I have a some what similar stint. Worked at a start that got acquired by big co for the product and customers, although not the product my team was responsible for. Our product got quickly put on maintenance mode with promises to rewrite the whole thing at some point.

So by that point I had been working there for a year and some, knew the system pretty well and we had pretty much nothing to do. No new features, very few bugs due to little change in the product.

I'd show up to work at 10, leave for lunch for 2+ hours, and leave the office at 4. And even then I was mostly surfing the web and chatting with friends most of the day. The rest of the team and my manager knew, but they also knew there was actually no work. We'd all go play badminton before lunch some times and so there were 3 hours periods where no one was around.

Was pretty nice at first. Steady pay, no responsibilities or stress. But quickly got really boring. And since it was my first job out of school, not very good for learning and growth. Ironically the slow pace also really dampened by motivation to look for another job, so I hung around probably a year longer than I should have.

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I once got a contract, early in my career, migrating marketing landing pages to a new format in which the contents of the pages (anything inside of the tag) were moved into `marketing_page_name.tmpl` files in a directory. From there they'd be pulled into a shell, and all kinds of tracking and link magic could happen from there. A few things like anchors needed new template variables instead of hard-coded links.

I realized I could automate this after the third or fourth page. There were hundreds of them, so I did a quick calculation: How long will it take to automate this? How long will it take to do it by hand? You know, the one we always do, then ignore because we want to automate stuff anyways.

In this case the automation made sense. I was paid per hour so I only stood to lose money.

I realized automating it and lying about how long it's taking would be immoral. I needed the money (I think this was my second job, ever, before ever getting a full time job. Maybe year 2005!). So what, do I just do it by hand and struggle through the monotony? No, that would be dishonest in a sense, too.

I talked to the people who contracted me and explained the options, showed them a sample of how well the automation worked, talked it through. They were really happy. They gained trust in me and my abilities. After I completed the project, they wanted to hire me for full time work. They gave me great references for years.

I couldn't handle automating my job away and slacking off. I love learning. I love doing my best work for people, providing real value. The cool thing to me about my job is that I can offer more and more value over time at a scale I couldn't in any other job my brain could navigate.

So all that is to say: this guy's story sounds awful to me. Let me automate it, then if I'm redundant, I'll go find something else interesting to do. I'm sure as hell not going to sit around playing counterstrike.

Not to say this person is bad or wrong or whatever. It just sounds like misery to me. The key difference might be that I enjoy my work and this guy doesn't, really.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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A lot of people in this thread find the story unbelievable. Having done IT consulting for law firms, I absolutely believe this story.

IT for law is 30 years behind in some cases. They still use Wordperfect because that's what all the templates are written in. Most lawyers have no clue about IT and are happy to pay people to keep things running. Most likely the law firm wouldn't even care if OP told them what they were doing as long as it worked.

Also, I know someone who was in a similar situation. He was a VAX admin in the 90s, when that tech was already 20 years old. He worked for a trading firm and all of their software was built on VAX. They made $1M a day from their software, as long as the machine was up during trading hours.

His only job was to sit at the terminal one hour before trading hours until trading closed for the day, and make sure the machine is running, and perform maintenance after the trading day ended. He got what in today's dollars would be about $500K a year to basically just sit there and teach himself modern programming languages while he waited for trading to end.

His boss was well aware of this, and straight up told him, as long as that machine is running during trading hours, the money we pay you is more than worth it. It was literally 1/2 a day's profits.

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