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1Password Has Raised $620M

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Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by sebastien_b »

mbesto wrote: post #477
sebastien_b wrote: post #439

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because much like privacy, password security shouldn't always be only a premium option. Plus like the parent said, proprietary code is a deal break for lots of people.

> Because much like privacy, password security shouldn't always be only a premium option. So then who foots the bill? Password managers are the duct tape used to protect a user because we don't inherently trust application providers. > proprietary code is a deal break for lots of people Sort of. First, "lots of people" seems like "lots of people" because we're on HN. The wider population doesn't care whether your app…

> So then who foots the bill?

Whoever wants to pay. Doesn't mean a product should be dismissed simply because it's "free".

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by bradwood »

baryphonic wrote: post #111
fxtentacle wrote: post #50

"1Password Has Raised $620M" Ah fuck. They now need to grow at any cost to earn all that money back. And they'll throw their users under the bus, if they have to, because it's either grow like a unicorn or go bust. Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. How come…

> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

I had the exact same experience... So I upgraded my wife.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by deadbunny »

alecco wrote: post #141
fxtentacle wrote: post #50

"1Password Has Raised $620M" Ah fuck. They now need to grow at any cost to earn all that money back. And they'll throw their users under the bus, if they have to, because it's either grow like a unicorn or go bust. Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. How come…

This opens a great opportunity for an open source disruptor to scoop their paying customers. Keeping it simple. I would be happy to throw in $100 to some crowdfunding as long as there's at least one legit security dev onboard. No Crypto bros please.

Search for Bitwarden. No crowdfunding needed.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by ma2011ma »

sleepybrett wrote: post #490
rco8786 wrote: post #444

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their solutions are unique but the problems they are solving are not, they are in direct overlap with where 1P is going.

I've watched three different teams fail to get vault up and running in any kind of a sustainable way. If they could solve that problem and add a desktop client they could crush 1password in this space. Probably wouldn't hurt that tons of software engineers are absolutely pissed at their moves in the consumer space recently.

sleepybrett; which three are you talking about? and how?

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by fxtentacle »

baryphonic wrote: post #111
fxtentacle wrote: post #50

"1Password Has Raised $620M" Ah fuck. They now need to grow at any cost to earn all that money back. And they'll throw their users under the bus, if they have to, because it's either grow like a unicorn or go bust. Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. How come…

> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

I agree with you that the 1Password UI is superior. I also didn't mean to imply that KeePassXC would be equal in every regard. That said, feature-wise, both of them solve the same problems for me.

But do you believe 7000 years of work is a realistic estimate for how much effort is needed for KeePassXC to catch up?

I don't.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by ryall »

baryphonic wrote: post #111
fxtentacle wrote: post #50

"1Password Has Raised $620M" Ah fuck. They now need to grow at any cost to earn all that money back. And they'll throw their users under the bus, if they have to, because it's either grow like a unicorn or go bust. Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. How come…

> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

It's funny you mention WAF because that's exactly what kept me away from 1password.

I loved almost everything about 1P but their reluctance to authenticate with keychain means it's a PITA for me, and an absolute deal breaker for my wife.

Has this changed or do you still have to enter your 1P password every time you log in or your session times out?

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by wutwutwutwut »

commoner wrote: post #452
ziml77 wrote: post #407

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought that it had all the same features, just not cloud sync. As far as I know the Yubikey is used for authenticating with their sync server. It doesn't actually help with the encryption

Bitwarden's free plan does have end-to-end encrypted cloud sync with no device limit. The free plan lacks TOTP support, but Bitwarden's $10/year plan does include TOTP support and is cheaper than 1Password's $35.88/year plan. Bitwarden is also open source, while 1Password is not.

Bitwarden free has TOTP.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by wutwutwutwut »

toyg wrote: post #400
wutwutwutwut wrote: post #378

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitwarden free edition is free. The free edition is crippled and doesn't support Yubikey among other things.

"Crippled" is a big word. It does everything that KeePass would do, for example; it only falls short when it comes to sharing passwords among a group or family (you can send a secret via BW Send, but you cannot have a shared store unless you pay for Premium). Yubikey and its likes are advanced features that the overwhelming majority of regular users will never need.

It is? I thouht it was the proper word to use to describe software which has limited features in free version so they can sell commercial licenses.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by jiveturkey »

samgranieri wrote: post #76

I really wish they weren't doing away with 1password classic and the native mac app. I like the fact I bought a license, that I can store the data on dropbox or icloud, and it works just fine. Yes, this is old news and sour grapes on my part. I just don't yet feel like migrating to bitwarden. I've been using 1password for 12 years since I saw it on a tutorial on peepcode.com. I actually taught my mother how to use it…

Same here. I begrudgingly moved to BW right after they stopped offering perpetual licenses. The UX is poor compared to 1P but for this software I could not continue to use 1P. They've become a deceptively marketed company. I actually had a sub on top of my perpetual license -- the cost is inconsequential and I want(ed) to support their business.
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