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I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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This is like the dream. I feel like I would spend the time learning an instrument, or maybe do online learnings to maybe get another job I actually enjoyed doing. Can't even hate and hope things work out for that guy.

I learned to play the fiddle the past two years working from home during Xcode's abysmal compile times. Sadly my new M1 max whatever has solved that problem, ha!

Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/303/

Truth be told I'm a sucker for an enterprise software position with long compile time.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Yeah this is the big red flag for me. I believe that a law firm without a ton of technical knowledge would hire someone to do this work manually, but they'd get an intern or something, this is not skilled work.

It's easy to overstate the technical difficulty of lots of basic IT work, especially if people are tech illiterate. There might be an element of deliberate fraud if this guy is spelling out the difficulty of the job as justifying his pay to management. I've seen very clever goldbricking similar to this, where management doesn't know enough to understand what good IT looks like, or how to value IT work.

On the other side: the business can clearly afford it, so the value he brings is entirely justified from a commercial perspective. The fact that they can find cheaper alternatives on the IT market is a different issue.

You can buy a new branded car for $$$ and be sure it will work for years with minimal maintenance, or you can shop around and buy a passable 15-year-old car; in both cases it will likely get you from A to B for a while, but the chance of having problems is lower with the new "whip". This guy, to the business, is the equivalent of leasing a new car every year: they can afford it and brings no risk as far as they can see.

The obsession with capital efficiency can often turn into a disease. Why should we drive down our own wages, when the market is willing to pay more?

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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Like TheDailyWTF stories, this is in the category of stories where even if the literal person who wrote that wrote fiction, something that is effectively the same story is true for someone. As developers who start writing big servers learn, scale matters. Crap you'd never think twice about when running a script on your workstation will bring your entire service down. There's 7-ish billion people in the world. Entire…

> As developers who start writing big servers learn, scale matters. Crap you'd never think twice about when running a script on your workstation will bring your entire service down. This reminded me of an issue we had at a previous startup that was growing really fast. There was a process that "created PDF invoices", which was coded by calling a (sync) API, which generated it on the fly. The problem changed, once tho…

wait did you use to work where I work? We fixed this, haha.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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post #148

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Like TheDailyWTF stories, this is in the category of stories where even if the literal person who wrote that wrote fiction, something that is effectively the same story is true for someone. As developers who start writing big servers learn, scale matters. Crap you'd never think twice about when running a script on your workstation will bring your entire service down. There's 7-ish billion people in the world. Entire…

This exchange has been the long drawn out version of: > > Story > r/thathappened r/nothingeverhappens --- Where subreddit "ThatHappened" is a sarcastic one, a response to far-fetched and unlikely sounding stories, implying they are not true. Such response has been overdone enough that subreddit "NothingEverHappens" has become a reply implying that unlikely sounding things actually do happen. And all of it is a real-w…

The story is most likely made up and one of the last clarifications strongly hints at it:

> It can't be this simple / this is fake because you aren't doing blah blah. You're right, it's not this simple. There are more steps involved in the script and it performs functions I haven't discussed. [...] The core of the script, transfer and hash, is accurate

The person focuses on transfer and hash and keeps what looks like an absolutely critical part of the process as barely a mention: checking against a spreadsheet where the automation is most vulnerable. Tens of thousands of files means just as many opportunities for a typo in that spreadsheet. And yet the job is still 10 minutes per day.

Also with the popularity this gained, not being worried at all that the employers can guess who this is about just because they left out some parts of the job is a bit hilarious. Somehow I can buy that a mid-sized law firm never realized how easy it is to automate this task. But nobody ever suspecting they're the actors in the story despite the process being fairly unique? That I don't buy.

Everything sounds like a very inexperienced person telling a story they can only fantasize about.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

#245

You aren’t being paid to copy and paste files, you are paid so the company can retain your skills in the event anything goes wrong. If the evidence was gone, corrupted or needed to be changed , they have someone on staff who can quickly remedy that. Isn’t that the point of a high skill job? You get paid for knowing which screw to tighten, you don’t get paid for tightening screws.

I think it's actually a bit more subtle than that. The post says the law firm "wanted [them] to be the only person with admin access to the Cloud, everyone else would be limited to view only". I wonder if their job is, more than anything else, to be the person who is legally on the hook if anything goes wrong, because they're the only one with write access.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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I'm always shocked by the lack of ambition from my friends who land "low-effort" office jobs where they aren't doing much.

Personally, I would:

1. Work on personal projects to build skills for something I actually care about

2. Study until I get a new non-boring job.

I would lose my mind if I had to do nothing but play video games all day. I struggle to fill the hours AFTER work! I can't imagine doing nothing.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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I feel like this is something that has been a common occurrence since personal computers started entering the workplace, but people who accomplish it usually follow up by expanding the scope of their job. Personally, I know someone who has "automated her work" using Excel at several jobs, to the point that she spent a few days per month doing the entire job of the person she replaced. These were jobs that anyone could have automated any time in the previous 10-15 years, and were automated at other companies she worked at, but at several companies she was the first to do it.

In software development, I "automated my job" many times in the old days in the sense that I was given a task that I was expected to do in a brute-force manner over several weeks, but I solved it by spending a few days cleaning and structuring the data and then writing a script. Now people are less and less surprised by the ability to solve problems with programming, so instead of handing out tasks like that, they are more likely to ask a product manager to design a new capability for internal tooling.

I haven't personally encountered somebody who used automation to coast in a job. The intersection between people who can achieve this technically and the people who can achieve it socially is probably pretty small. (If I automated my job, I would have a hard time keeping my mouth shut about it. My Excel friend is a squeaky-clean go-getter and would not be able to resist taking on extra work.) I understand the choice, though.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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If the firm was billing his time, he'd have to create a billing log. You generally can't get away with billing for IT. But you can bill for "litigation support" which is the intersection of IT and litigation. Though its much more involved than just uploading files to an FTP.

Depends how shady the firm is :-) Also for probably any litigation that is IT related you could probably get away with a lot more

Firms navigate this by making the employees fill out their own billing entries. If OP is filling out fraudulent billing entries then that would explain why nobody is checking up on him. If he's billed out, his real work output is billed-hours.

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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In Austria (and I think in Germany it's the same), for most jobs, including IT, employees must track their working time for legal reasons, so I had to clock in and out via a device at the entrance like a factory worker, to prove to HR, accounting and the bureaucratic government institutions in charge of taxing me, that I'm indeed at my workplace 8h/day. One company I interviewed at had a work-time time tracking machi…

> and I think in Germany it's the same It should be, but it’s not in most circumstances. (Industry is fighting it tooth and nail, all of a sudden unpaid overtime would be so much harder.)

>all of a sudden unpaid overtime would be so much harder

Austria "solved" this "problem" by introducing the infamous all-in contract, adopted by many companies, where all your potential overtime is already included in your compensation.

Basically it's a fancy way to have you wave your right to paid overtime to what amounts to one of the most exploitative legal employment practices I've seen in Europe.

And the strict time tracking is still there for legal and workplace accident insurance reasons ("you claim you hurt yourself through a work related accident at 14:40, but we need to check your time tracking as proof you were actually at work and not somewhere else")

Re: I automated my job over a year ago and haven't told anyone

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When I worked at HP over a decade ago it was literally my job to walk into a department and find processes that were automatable, implement whatever program or automation was necessary and gtfo. One of the highlights for me when working there was automating a process which took three people thirty days to perform. I made a point to unnecessarily optimize the program to the point where it ran in a handful of milliseco…

A good way to make friends too.

Not the people whose jobs likely went away as a result, however.
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