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Post by fknorangesite »

pavlov wrote: post #53
q1w2 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The number of nurses that are willing to quit so they aren't required to get the vaccine is insane, and I think that might be what is driving the enrollment reduction.

> "The number of nurses that are willing to quit so they aren't required to get the vaccine is insane" Can you point to some data on this?

Skimming through this[1], for example, it looks like ~1%, though it seems that in some cases they are counting "medical workers" not just nurses.

[1]https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/workforce/vaccination-...

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Post by wayoutthere »

bdcravens wrote: post #12
wayoutthere wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not if you’re a landlord.

Landlords don't like to evict. They prefer to receive rent.

If you’re a big enough landlord you want to have a certain percentage of evictions as a low eviction rate is a signal you should hike rent. When housing supply near jobs is as constrained as it is, evicting people causes more people to cram into a tiny apartment, which means you can charge more rent for that tiny apartment.

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Post by fineIllregister »

jMyles wrote: post #33
xahrepap wrote: post #27

Tangential and honest question: how do eviction moratoriums help? I can see how a short ban on evictions can help prevent a spike in a homelessness crisis, but long term I really struggle with it. Is the assumption that all/most landlords have infinite money to support non-payers? Are governments subsidizing 100% of the missed rent?

> Are governments subsidizing 100% of the missed rent? Not quite. Only 0%.

This is completely false. The federal stimulus packages had billions in subsidies to landlords. That's in addition to the indirect support that the govtlernment has provides (such as the stimulus checks). Also most states have additional money for landlords.

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Post by dehrmann »

cletus wrote: post #19

I'm all for providing a social safety net in exactly the way the US doesn't. Housing (aka shelter) is a key part of that but the way the US does this is completely backwards. The government saying you can't evict someone is basically telling people they don't have to pay rent anymore regardless of need . Rent control is the same way: you can't raise the rent regardless of need . So these programs don't really help pe…

> This is the government foisting welfare onto the private sector rather than doing it properly.

This is the key point. It's the same with rent control. It's governments dodging its responsibilities, then pushing the costs to the private sector unevenly. If you really want these programs, send the people subsidy checks. It's more fair to renters, it's more transparent, and it makes it easier to track the true cost. Don't want to send out those checks? Maybe you shouldn't volunteer landlords to subsidize your social program.

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

herlitzj wrote: post #47
cletus wrote: post #19

I'm all for providing a social safety net in exactly the way the US doesn't. Housing (aka shelter) is a key part of that but the way the US does this is completely backwards. The government saying you can't evict someone is basically telling people they don't have to pay rent anymore regardless of need . Rent control is the same way: you can't raise the rent regardless of need . So these programs don't really help pe…

> assess this on a case-by-case basis and pay the rent for people in genuine need I'm not sure you've fully thought through how complex this would be. There are 40 million rental households in the US. Even if only 1% (400,000) decided to be a part of this program and you could close every case in 1 hour (which is probably wildly low) that's 45 man-years of effort.

So, to run with your for-instance, if we wanted to do all of that in a month, then we'd have to put 45 x 12 = 540 people on it. Nationwide. For a month, and then we're done. That doesn't seem particularly difficult.

Of course, it would take three years to roll out the computer application that they would need in order to make and document the decision, but that's somewhat a separate problem...

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

eganist wrote: post #25
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #22

These headlines are some of the weirdest backwards stories I’ve seen lately. It’s like everyone is desperate to make this into a crisis yet reality isn’t delivering the eviction catastrophe the headline writers wanted. Obviously we’re seeing more evictions now that they’re literally not banned. That’s not news. However, this is shocking: > The rates of evictions served are approaching pre-pandemic levels in certain a…

> If eviction rates are “approaching pre-pandemic levels” then isn’t the real shocking headline that eviction rates are lower than before the pandemic despite the eviction moratorium? What am I missing? Home is the only shelter many people have from contracting COVID. Evicting people into situations such as homelessness and overcrowding, where infection is more rampant, is a great way to spike infection rates potenti…

Landlords don't generally evict people because they want their properties to be empty. Evicting a tenant and taking in a different one has no effect on the number of people with housing.

If you actually want to reduce crowding, build more housing.

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Post by nomel »

HarryHirsch wrote: post #26
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #22

These headlines are some of the weirdest backwards stories I’ve seen lately. It’s like everyone is desperate to make this into a crisis yet reality isn’t delivering the eviction catastrophe the headline writers wanted. Obviously we’re seeing more evictions now that they’re literally not banned. That’s not news. However, this is shocking: > The rates of evictions served are approaching pre-pandemic levels in certain a…

You are missing that the pandemic is very much ongoing, despite the government pretending the opposite. At my institution, the semester is starting. We are serving the lower income bracket (read nursing school). Enrollment is down 20 %. This is going to have long-term consequences.

I imagine that interest in being a nurse during a pandemic might also be contributing, especially with constant news about how bad healthcare workers have it right now. I don't think "nursing enrollment" is a useful, solitary, metric.

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Post by toiletfuneral »

q1w2 wrote: post #54
xahrepap wrote: post #27

Tangential and honest question: how do eviction moratoriums help? I can see how a short ban on evictions can help prevent a spike in a homelessness crisis, but long term I really struggle with it. Is the assumption that all/most landlords have infinite money to support non-payers? Are governments subsidizing 100% of the missed rent?

As a landlord, I can tell you that the government does NOT replace ANY of the missed rent. Moreover, while many tenants have continued to pay their rent - MANY have gradually started realizing that I am unable to evict them, and have completely stopped paying rent. Moreover, they have started collaborating under the assumption that there is more protection if they do it together. Like other landlords, I have lost a t…

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Post by 999900000999 »

Eviction is a very good book on this.

America has a very very high eviction rate compared to other countries. I went through 2 evictions by 19 and their the worst things you can experience.

In this country you can lose your job on Monday, lose your health insurance Tuesday. Which, even if you have manageable conditions will make it much harder to work.

Then without a job you'll be evicted in another month or so. Somehow other countries don't work like this.

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Post by jackson1442 »

ModernMech wrote: post #62
djrogers wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The rates of evictions served are approaching pre-pandemic levels in certain areas. This is kinda shocking - not that the rates are rising, but that after the drumbeat we've been hearing about the coming eviction-pocalypse, it hasn't happened. Seems that there'd be pent-up demand for eviction after 1.5 years of not being allowed to, which would result in a much higher rate for a while until it leveled off. Guess th…

One thing that helped a lot of people is the stimulus money they received. I know there are a lot of stories out there about people using that money frivolously, but the statistics [0] show that roughly half of the stimulus money was spent on rent and bills. If we hadn't spent all that money on stimulus checks, then the current situation could be much worse. [0] https://www.self.inc/info/stimulus-check-survey/

not to mention it’s a _stimulus_. the whole point is to spend it within the economy. really the only negative outcome for the government would be to dump it in a savings account.
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