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1Password Has Raised $620M

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Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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I’m amused by the large portion of the Hackernews userbase that seems to view venture capital as an absolute evil, given that this is YCombinator’s forum. Can you really not think of any examples where VC capital has improved a company, product, or service?

> Can you really not think of any examples where VC capital has improved a company, product, or service? I honestly can’t, do you mind sharing a few examples to prove your point? I have a long list of “stopped using because went to shit after VC was injected” 1. WhatsApp and Facebook relation 2. Twitter and the loss of control over my feed 3. Spotify and the podcasts shenanigans 4. Dropbox and their assholery against…

Survivor bias at its finest.

Dropbox, Spotify, and Twitter all used VC money to launch/improve their product. Just because you don't specifically like the traunch of VC money that was used prior to IPO doesn't mean all VC is blood-sucking.

There are countless examples of products people use that have had some form or shape. In fact, I'd argue there are rarely apps that anyone uses here on a regular basis that didn't have some form of VC money injected into them. The only one that comes to mind is (1) Basecamp (but technically they took money from Bezos) and (2) Atlassian pre IPO (now public).

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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We use BitWarden and it is free. $620M for a password manager is nuts.

I like Bitwarden too, but can't dismiss the fact that 1Password is superior to Bitwarden in many ways: - Mobile UI is beautiful on 1Password. - The UX from creating a password entry to auto-filling is easily better on 1Password. Bitwarden doesn't show autofill entries on login forms yet. That's a deal breaker, at least for me. - Account recovery via a trusted family member. - Additional security measure: private key…

> Bitwarden doesn't show autofill entries on login forms yet. That's a deal breaker, at least for me.

I was able to enable that in the settings, but I've found it very hit or miss compared to when I used LastPass.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Eh. I used to use 1Password long ago, when it was still a "normal" app (one-time payment, not trying to become a unicorn). It was easy for me to switch password managers (my needs are modest, and I generally like to break my app habits once in a while). My journey included (1) self-written manager; (2) LastPass; (3) pass CLI, and (4) Bitwarden (free tier). I'm now a happy Bitwarden user. It's ugly, and I'm a UX desig…

Shout out to Strongbox if you're an apple user. It supports .kdbx across apple devices with a 10/10 UI

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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"1Password Has Raised $620M" Ah fuck. They now need to grow at any cost to earn all that money back. And they'll throw their users under the bus, if they have to, because it's either grow like a unicorn or go bust. Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. How come…

Oh no, my thoughts exactly. My wife and I were just talking about setting up 1Password to switch from LastPass. It looks like BitWarden might be the best option if only for longevity.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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I really wish they weren't doing away with 1password classic and the native mac app. I like the fact I bought a license, that I can store the data on dropbox or icloud, and it works just fine. Yes, this is old news and sour grapes on my part. I just don't yet feel like migrating to bitwarden. I've been using 1password for 12 years since I saw it on a tutorial on peepcode.com. I actually taught my mother how to use it…

I don't even mind the subscription fee and cloud hosting personally, just make a kickass native app like they always had and I'll stay. If they force me to "upgrade" to 8 and it's not a native app then I'll just use something else like bitwarden.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

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My wife has this problem. I have a bit more tolerance. There is no else I try to convince to use such software. WAF is accurate but because I don't run it by someone else.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

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>I, a computer programmer who has more than enough intelligence >Stop blaming/shaming wives.

It seems like it is you who is equating tech illiteracy with intelligence, pal. There is nothing wrong with being technically illiterate (most people are) and I don't think GP is shaming his wife because of it.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

Nerds continue to fail to grasp the value of UI/UX. This has always been why FOSS and similar solutions have failed to compete in the market in spite of being "free" and often technically superior. UI/UX is everything. Apple became the most valuable company in history on the back of UI/UX alone. Their tech is decent but not that much better than anyone else's, but their stuff is at least marginally easier to use and…

> If you value your time at $100/hour and you have to spend one hour a month maintaining something "free," that free thing costs $100/month. That's fairly expensive.

This is quite true, but the counterpoint is that nerds enjoy spending that time. We like opening the box, poking at the wires, seeing how the cogs fit together, and tweaking things endlessly. It would be a liability for a normie, but for a nerd whose interest is piqued it's a fun Saturday project. This is why FOSS survives despite the UI/UX problems.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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We use BitWarden and it is free. $620M for a password manager is nuts.

I like Bitwarden too, but can't dismiss the fact that 1Password is superior to Bitwarden in many ways: - Mobile UI is beautiful on 1Password. - The UX from creating a password entry to auto-filling is easily better on 1Password. Bitwarden doesn't show autofill entries on login forms yet. That's a deal breaker, at least for me. - Account recovery via a trusted family member. - Additional security measure: private key…

Bitwarden has all those features you listed. I use it every day.

You can setup a trusted family member. You get a master password and private key incase you can't access 2fa. You can setup autofill entries. UI/UX are opinions.

You pay $40 dollars a year for Family, $10 a year for an individual. Cheaper than 1password.

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