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1Password Has Raised $620M

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Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

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If I may chime in, and sorry for acting like an annoying dude, but I also really dislike the term WAF. Of course the term makes sense if we look at IT and the world historically, but I don't get why in 2021 we still have to act like wives are tech illiterate by default, and also, what about women in IT who have tech illiterate husbands.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

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Sounds like the Lkxijjlewlf Acceptance Factor (LAF) is also very low. You have something in common with the parent’s wife!

The parent did no shaming; as you pointed out it’s extremely reasonable to not want to jump through hoops. Any shame is projected by yourself.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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"1Password Has Raised $620M" Ah fuck. They now need to grow at any cost to earn all that money back. And they'll throw their users under the bus, if they have to, because it's either grow like a unicorn or go bust. Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. How come…

They previously raised $100M in 2021[1] and in my mind the rot has already set in. 1Password 8 is not OS-native and is an electron app. Local vaults are no longer supported - you must use AgileBits's cloud. And 1Password 7 shows non-dismissible ads for upgrading to 1Password 8[2]. Edit: They also inexplicably (and silently) dropped support for the 1Password iOS share sheet while directing users to the 1Password iOS S…

I'm hanging on to 1password 6 for as long as I can. I can't use the browser plugin on firefox anymore, so I have to copy&paste my passwords in, but at least I have my vault stored locally. I also paid something like $70 and had the rug pulled from under me when they wanted to start charging monthly on top of that.

It's not that I expect support forever for software I paid once for, but I think that the monthly, no local vault is worse than what they offered in 1password 6. I am OK with having to manually copy in passwords.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

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Yeah, GP's acronym ain't great. But if you sub out "wife" for "significant other" or just "family" then you have to admit that this is a real phenomenon.

I use pass [0]. To me, it is the best password manager that I've ever used. Command-line-first, free & open source, built on git... it's great, and suits all my needs. From the perspective of someone who spends most of their day behind a CLI, it is "simple" and "just works" more than anything else.

But it's not going to work for my significant other, who is very intelligent but isn't a software engineer. They're not going to learn git so that they can manage passwords, and the app doesn't abstract away git enough for them to avoid needing learning it. Hence, despite its merits, it fails the "SO acceptance factor" or whatever you want to call it.

[0] https://www.passwordstore.org/

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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People thinking this is an absurd amount of money are sleeping on how 1Password is quietly positioning itself to become the ground truth storage solution for corporate secret management, across devops and non-technical groups alike. Given Hashicorp's market cap of 11B, and 1Password's narrative on how to become even more central to corporate use cases by being the storage layer for Vault deployments, it's a very reas…

Well, Hashicorp stands on many legs and they don't have much competition in many areas as theirs solutions are pretty unique...

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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"1Password Has Raised $620M" Ah fuck. They now need to grow at any cost to earn all that money back. And they'll throw their users under the bus, if they have to, because it's either grow like a unicorn or go bust. Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. How come…

Big fan of KeePassXC ( https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc ). Works wonderfully on MacOS. I guess 1Password is a bit snazzier, but I'm really not sure what you would use $620M for in a password manager... Maybe they'll go the Keybase route and integrate some crypto?! ( https://keybase.io/blog/keybase-stellar-launch )

> Maybe they'll go the Keybase route and integrate some crypto?!

Well, congratulations, you just proposed a scenario that would make me consider leaving 1Password after all. :)

Seriously, I am somewhat concerned at this level of VC money injection; I'm not intrinsically against venture capital or such, but investors (obviously) want a return on their investment and it's hard to imagine how you get a return on that much investment with just a password manager, even one that's a subscription service.

(I am also not intrinsically against crypto and wouldn't really abandon a service just because they do something that involves it, but most blockchain technology continues to feel like a solution in search of a problem. That's another discussion, though…)

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

I've had the exact same experience. It took me about 5 minutes to teach my partner how to use 1Password and its been years since I had to help them use the app. I've stopped worrying about password re-use or compromise. Now I'm teaching my kids to use it and they love it b/c they dont have to make up or remember passwords. Yes there are other technically equivalent options but the fact I can get it setup on an iOS de…

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Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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I long hoped Apple would buy out 1Password and include it in their iCloud+ subscription.

Apart from “works on stuff you didn’t buy from Apple” (a feature that I think isn’t in Apple’s interest to support well), what major features does it have that keychain syncing over iCloud doesn’t already have, or could easily add?

Shared family vaults are the big thing for me -- I don't want to share _all_ of my passwords with my family, but 1P is a good way to share stuff like streaming service logins.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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The only downside is that I can't currently use my privately hosted instance as passwd safe with the chrome browser extension. This only works for the hosted version. So I can't habe autofill, automatic saving of new/changed passwords and password creation and also use the same vault for the mobile app (Android). The mobile app can access the self hosted vault without any issue. I would love to fully migrate to self…

Use Vaultwarden. I use that, and it works wonderfully .

I use Vaultwarden as the server host. Does it have a chrome add on as well?
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