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Re: Craig Wright suing developers to forcibly give him access to internet coins

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Post by rjbwork »

antihero wrote: post #61
ddtaylor wrote: post #2

"Faketoshi" as he's known in the community always finds a new way to NOT be able to prove he has access to the early mined coins. It's honestly comical at this point the different bullshit he comes up with. My favorite so far was finding an existing signature on the blockchain from Satoshi, modifying the data, then publishing the signature with different data in an attempt to claim to be the creator of Bitcoin. Every…

Honestly I think it would be quite funny if he wins and developers have to rewrite part of the protocol to give a specific guy money. Would really highlight who's really in control.

I don't really have a dog in this fight. I highly doubt the miners would move to that chain/protocol. There would be a hard fork of the source code and chain, possibly by people outside the reach of whatever jurisdiction this guy is in. It's just completely impossible for this to actually happen AND actually mean anything. Anyone can get access to any coins by changing the source code/protocol and hard forking the chain. But they won't be worth anything, just another orphaned side chain with nobody on it.

Re: Craig Wright suing developers to forcibly give him access to internet coins

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Post by tata71 »

twox2 wrote: post #72

Craig Wright is a patent troll, a narcissist, and a sociopath. It's amazing how far he has been able to take this grift. Part of it is that he has been able to adopt this unwavering character and not break it for years.... something a normal person just isn't wired to do.

So why aren't we asking what's happened to him,

instead of presuming malice?

(Genuinely)

Re: Craig Wright suing developers to forcibly give him access to internet coins

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Post by twox2 »

tata71 wrote: post #92
twox2 wrote: post #72

Craig Wright is a patent troll, a narcissist, and a sociopath. It's amazing how far he has been able to take this grift. Part of it is that he has been able to adopt this unwavering character and not break it for years.... something a normal person just isn't wired to do.

So why aren't we asking what's happened to him, instead of presuming malice? (Genuinely)

I think it's pretty clear that it is malice.

But to your question - I suppose I agree. I don't think society usually tries to help malignant people whether or not it stems from mental health issues or not. We tend to focus more on punitive measures than rehabilitation if someone does something out of line.

Re: Craig Wright suing developers to forcibly give him access to internet coins

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Post by aqme28 »

tata71 wrote: post #88
aqme28 wrote: post #31

Craig Wright is such a fraud. The ALAB Podcast episode on him is hilarious. He's got some serious mental issues. My favorite part about the saga is that after he claimed to be Satoshi and have access to billions of dollars, everyone involved in lawsuits with him agreed. "Yeah, okay you've got billions of dollars. So that means you owe the plaintiff half of that, and the Australian tax authorities a chunk too."

Your first three sentences are pretty fucked up, when read together.

You're not wrong, but it's hard not to laugh when someone is the victim of their own hubris this often.

Re: Craig Wright suing developers to forcibly give him access to internet coins

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Post by GBiT »

jcranmer wrote: post #83
pczy wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even being non-American with my necessarily flawed understanding of the US constitution, the scenario you described strikes me as a clear violation of the first amendment. First, you would have to compel someone to write new code that changes the way bitcoin fundamentally works. Assuming you manage to do so, you would then have to compel "everyone" to recognise the hard-fork as the "true" chain, again something clear…

It wouldn't violate the First Amendment, since the court isn't going to be a government actor for that purpose. A court absolutely could order someone to change their code to comport with the judgement--I mean, this happened to Apple in the not-too-distant past. What the court can't do is compel everybody to use the new hard fork, first for the simple reason that most of those people aren't being sued , but somewhat…

Miners investing hundred millions dollars into operation. If court will tell them, like for example 3 biggest miners from US to make that block, they will do it to protect investment, because other way they will get sanctions from gov. Other people on non-mining nodes can fork it, but noone with millions dollars at stake will be on forked chain and only miners make blocks. Court will not be stupid and believe, that such move is legal way to disobey court.

Re: Craig Wright suing developers to forcibly give him access to internet coins

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Post by aqme28 »

antihero wrote: post #61
ddtaylor wrote: post #2

"Faketoshi" as he's known in the community always finds a new way to NOT be able to prove he has access to the early mined coins. It's honestly comical at this point the different bullshit he comes up with. My favorite so far was finding an existing signature on the blockchain from Satoshi, modifying the data, then publishing the signature with different data in an attempt to claim to be the creator of Bitcoin. Every…

Honestly I think it would be quite funny if he wins and developers have to rewrite part of the protocol to give a specific guy money. Would really highlight who's really in control.

It's a not-particularly popular fork of Bitcoin. If they did this, I guarantee there would be a hard fork and the value of Craig's "bitcoin silver" would go to 0.

Re: Craig Wright suing developers to forcibly give him access to internet coins

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Post by champagnois »

brokensegue wrote: post #75
champagnois wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or Israel? The genesis block contains a huge front page news storey of Israeli tanks rolling into Gaza, images and all, put there by Satoshi themself.

The Genesis block very clearly referenced a bank bailout.

Yes, but on the subject of plausible state actors -- Israel is among them. They also have a very advanced cohort of computer scientists and a booming crypto industry. There were even early cryptominers produced there, iirc.

It would not surprise me in the least if their state was behind the SN pseudonym.

Also... SN could have used any news article from any publication discussing the bailouts -- they made a choice to use a page with a massive graphic of Israeli tanks rolling into territory, rather than, say, any page from a more financially focused paper like WSJ... This could be just noise or it could be there as some form of nationalism or affinity for the image and storey.

Re: Craig Wright suing developers to forcibly give him access to internet coins

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Post by ASalazarMX »

bitxbitxbitcoin wrote: post #65
antihero wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly I think it would be quite funny if he wins and developers have to rewrite part of the protocol to give a specific guy money. Would really highlight who's really in control.

It would be funny but it is physically impossible for all the reasons that make Bitcoin desirable.

> physically impossible

You mean ethically questionable? Because it is not impossible.

Re: Craig Wright suing developers to forcibly give him access to internet coins

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Post by notahacker »

lawn wrote: post #85
uncletammy wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A more realistic goal is probably to get the court's blessing to authorize nchain, who maintain the only BSV client (therefore the entire blockchain) , to send Satoshi's BSV coins to Craig. This seems much easier to achieve and allows him to steal coins from all BSV holders without taking from any one BSV holder in particular. Coins previously thought lost would be reintroduced, effectively inflating the coin's suppl…

He wouldn't even need the court's blessing for it though, as they already control the hash power and the reference client (which is no longer under an open license).

A court effectively ruling that he was Satoshi and a fork made to award him coins was the "original" Bitcoin and possibly even ruling other forks violate his "IP" would make it much easier for him to dump those coins on speculators though. (I don't think the court will grant him any of those things, but it's not too difficult to imagine him hoping the court can provide him with more than just some coins on a PoC fork nobody uses)
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