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1Password Has Raised $620M

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Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by Gracana »

api wrote: post #191
Sytten wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made the same argument below but I was downvoted to hell. Bitwarden is not an alternative to 1Password that passes the wife/parent/elder test because the UX is so bad they need to call me everytime something isnt exactly working as before.

You were downvoted to hell because nerds continue to refuse to understand this. At this point it's flat out denialism. This refusal to understand UI/UX goes way way back in hacker culture: http://catb.org/jargon/html/P/point-and-drool-interface.html This seems to be a general characteristic of enthusiasts. To design a good car for people other than car enthusiasts, you have to hate cars or at least be able to place o…

Maybe name-calling and suggesting they should be mutilated isn't enough. What's your next step?

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by yborg »

InvaderFizz wrote: post #155
baryphonic wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

There is the WAF. There is also the part where when I evaluated KeePassXC two months ago, the browser plug-in would constantly desync and require a full page refresh and entering my master password. With 1Password, I also have to reauthenticate all the time, but unlike KeePass, TouchID works.

TouchID works fine for me in KeepPassXC. You have to turn on the option.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by a5aAqU »

vagrantJin wrote: post #176
baryphonic wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

> Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan Haha. I'm pretty sure browsers build this feature in.

I don't think browsers let you share passwords between users or multiple browsers. They probably don't let you store secure notes or add extra data about logins.

1password lets you share passwords with other people, even if they don't have a 1password account.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by xrisk »

soheil wrote: post #77
bombcar wrote: post #5

`But we don’t just want to keep up; our goal is to push the envelope and explore beyond the boundaries of traditional password management.` Hmmm, sounds like the time to migrate may be sooner than I'd hoped.

I really love an alternative that does these: 1. native app (no bullshit JS based) for speed 2. the same keybindings CMD+\ or Option+CMD+\ to fill in or pop up the menu 3. sync with icloud 4. not look like total shit (ie. lastpass) Do these basic things and I think you can easily steal 1pass users.

Can recommend Keepassium for macOS/iOS. Just works™.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by alexdrue »

schleck8 wrote: post #147
baryphonic wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. Because 1Password is easy enough to use that my wife and I can share a family plan without her getting frustrated. If one of us has a login the other needs, we can easily share it. When I evaluated KeePass, the Wife-Accep…

What about Bitwarden? Open source and has a free plan for two people. The family plan includes one more seat than 1password and costs 20 € less per year

Strongly agree with this one. We tend to use Bitwarden and it helps me without any problems at all.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by maxwell86 »

fxtentacle wrote: post #50

"1Password Has Raised $620M" Ah fuck. They now need to grow at any cost to earn all that money back. And they'll throw their users under the bus, if they have to, because it's either grow like a unicorn or go bust. Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. How come…

> I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive.

So you can't imagine how owning the passwords of all services of dozens of millions of users, both private users and corporate accounts, could be valuable?

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by johncalvinyoung »

AlexandrB wrote: post #186
fxtentacle wrote: post #50

"1Password Has Raised $620M" Ah fuck. They now need to grow at any cost to earn all that money back. And they'll throw their users under the bus, if they have to, because it's either grow like a unicorn or go bust. Also, I sincerely have no clue how a password manager could be so expensive. Last time I checked, the excellent KeePassXC was still free open source and developed by volunteers in their free time. How come…

They previously raised $100M in 2021[1] and in my mind the rot has already set in. 1Password 8 is not OS-native and is an electron app. Local vaults are no longer supported - you must use AgileBits's cloud. And 1Password 7 shows non-dismissible ads for upgrading to 1Password 8[2]. Edit: They also inexplicably (and silently) dropped support for the 1Password iOS share sheet while directing users to the 1Password iOS S…

Basically all of the above makes me very sad. But it's still useful enough that I'll still be paying, but they are drawing down that goodwill.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by nisegami »

mateuszf wrote: post #21
only4here wrote: post #14

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You can never trust cloud-hosted password managers..

> You can never trust cloud-hosted password managers.. If you examine the source code of a client (for example bitwarden) and make sure that it's not leaking your master password and then compile the soft yourself and not update - you'll be pretty safe. This will make it similarly secure as e.g. keepass, because even for keepass you should be sure the source is legit

Technical trust is one thing, but I think the trust GP is referring to is more of a trust in the company's commitment to the business model. Password Managers aren't sexy. There isn't a ton of disruption possible in the field, so these companies may tend to look to expand beyond password management or get acquired. This in turn can mean the password manager product will be left to rot.

Re: 1Password Has Raised $620M

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Post by cannonpalms »

sdoering wrote: post #159
npteljes wrote: post #136

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Did you try BitWarden? I haven't yet, but it's supposed to be basically a FOSS alternative to LastPass / 1Password.

The only downside is that I can't currently use my privately hosted instance as passwd safe with the chrome browser extension. This only works for the hosted version. So I can't habe autofill, automatic saving of new/changed passwords and password creation and also use the same vault for the mobile app (Android). The mobile app can access the self hosted vault without any issue. I would love to fully migrate to self…

This isn't true. The browser extension (on all major browsers) allows use of self-hosted instances. I'm using it right now.
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