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Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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It's time for EU services to shine.

They haven't shined in 25 years. We will just be forced to use inferior products.

Come on mate, you're likely listening to music via a EU service (Spotify) and you were calling people with a EU service (Skype) before a US corporation bought it and ruined it.

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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The CLOUD Act itself is the issue. Don't use MS Office 365 or any other US based service even if their servers are in Europe as they can not guarantee that your data is not accessible by the US. Amazon and Cloudflare are all great service but your data is under US jurisdiction.

If one stops and thinks about this point of view, most of the services used globally are under US jurisdiction... Which is less than ideal.

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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The CLOUD Act itself is the issue. Don't use MS Office 365 or any other US based service even if their servers are in Europe as they can not guarantee that your data is not accessible by the US. Amazon and Cloudflare are all great service but your data is under US jurisdiction.

So the entire EU is going to be forced to use Open Office or some other equivalent? Non tech people will hate this and it will cripple many businesses that rely on Microsoft Excel. You'd be surprised how much of the world economy is based on emailing Excel sheets back and forth

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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post #10

I really hope this will have consequences that shake up ad tech, but the cynic in me says: They're just going to add another disclaimer in their cookie banner and exactly nothing will happen.

You either pay with your data, or you pay with clicks on stupid cookie banners. Or both, if you click on the wrong button.

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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post #20
post #10

I really hope this will have consequences that shake up ad tech, but the cynic in me says: They're just going to add another disclaimer in their cookie banner and exactly nothing will happen.

Well part of the ruling is that the "standard contractual clauses", basically an attempt to contract away the regulation is not valid. From the article, it seems to be just conceptually, which gels with my understanding of the GDPR, so it's not going to be just adjusting/appending the legal wording in the TOS to fix that.

> "standard contractual clauses", basically an attempt to contract away the regulation is not valid.

how is this suprising? This has been the case in Civil law since atleast napoleonic times.

Contracts do not declare laws or rights invalid, unless these exceptions are defined in said law.

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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post #14
post #2

The article seems to suggest that it's declared illegal in Austria. Does this somehow apply to the whole EU then?

EU laws come in a couple of variants. The most common is a directive which is basically "Your country needs to pass a law to achieve X, Y, Z", and this is where you get larger country to country differences in interpretation. The GDPR is instead a regulation. That means it's literally the same law (and theoretically, the same standards) that applies EU wide. So the US equivalent would be a court in Texas finding some…

That's not quite right. This ruling is not the precedent, the Schrems II ruling is the precedent. This is just a court determining that Schrems is in fact relevant precedent in this specific case, and finding based on that.

Re: Austria's data protection authority has found that Google Analytics is illegal

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Thank God we have very capable cloud providers in Europe that will rise to the challenge and offer a viable opportunity to the US major cloud providers!

Hetzner, OVH, Leaseweb, Scaleway. How many cloud providers do you need?
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