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Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
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Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe once gigabit internet service becomes more widely available, but even for something like a consumer NAS you’re probably bottlenecked by something else no?
NAS with SSD can go way faster than the ~ 120 MB/s 1GbE can offer. For NAS with HDD, the benefit is not as big but still there. Also, the main competition is WiFi which is significantly slower than 1GbE in most cases.
NAS with HDD and a boat load of RAM can easily saturate 10GbE NIC if you're using it as a media server. Most content on my NAS is cached and rarely touches the disk.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#33It's interesting to see just how slow faster ethernet standards have been. Feels like I've had gigabit ethernet at a pretty low cost for nearly 20 years now, but faster than that has been pretty esoteric outside of the datacentre. I guess there really isn't much demand for faster than gigabit speeds even now (outside of servers?)
Getting stuck to 1 Gbps is somewhat crazy, as even the slowest laptop and PC M.2 SSDs can do 10-20 Gbps easy. Fastest ones 50 Gbps+. But I guess most people don't transfer files in their local networks anymore and use their network purely for internet access.
I rent an apartment in a building that was erected around 2015. They laid an ethernet connection... with a 100Mbps bandwidth limit.
Some people just don't care.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#34It's interesting to see just how slow faster ethernet standards have been. Feels like I've had gigabit ethernet at a pretty low cost for nearly 20 years now, but faster than that has been pretty esoteric outside of the datacentre. I guess there really isn't much demand for faster than gigabit speeds even now (outside of servers?)
Because consumer found wifi more convenient and serves them well.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#35This would be so much nicer if it was SFP+, 10GBASE-T transceivers are too expensive still IMO.
? They are like $20 for single mode fiber which you can run for miles.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#36It's interesting to see just how slow faster ethernet standards have been. Feels like I've had gigabit ethernet at a pretty low cost for nearly 20 years now, but faster than that has been pretty esoteric outside of the datacentre. I guess there really isn't much demand for faster than gigabit speeds even now (outside of servers?)
Lots of reasons:
1. Consumer broadband speeds rarely exceed 1Gbps
2. 1Gbps Local network transfers are seldom slowed by the network (as large file work typically involves HDD still)
3. Where local network transfers are impeded by the network speed the transferring itself isn't a frequent enough and blocking thing that people feel they need to fix it... they just go make a cup of tea once or twice a day
4. There are a lot of old network devices and cables out there, some built into the fabric of buildings (wall network sockets and cable runs)
5. WiFi is very very convenient, so much so that 250Mbps is good enough for almost anything and most people would rather be wireless at that speed than wired at a much higher speed (gamers and video professionals being an exception)
And ultimately, the cost and effort of investing in it doesn't produce an overwhelming benefit to people.
Even in quite large offices, it's hard to argue that this is worth it when the vast majority of people are just using web applications and very lossy audio and video meetings across the internet.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#37It's interesting to see just how slow faster ethernet standards have been. Feels like I've had gigabit ethernet at a pretty low cost for nearly 20 years now, but faster than that has been pretty esoteric outside of the datacentre. I guess there really isn't much demand for faster than gigabit speeds even now (outside of servers?)
10GbE and 100GbE on fiber is quite cheap and easy now - but 99% of consumers and people doing ordinary stuff have no capability or interest in doing fiber. You can terminate cat5e or cat6 with $25 in hand tools...
I think what's new is the prevalence now of 2.5 and 5GBaseT ethernet chips that are cheap enough companies are starting to build them into any $125+ ATX motherboard. At short lengths even old crappy cat5e has a good chance of working at 2.5 or 5.0 speeds.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#38It's interesting to see just how slow faster ethernet standards have been. Feels like I've had gigabit ethernet at a pretty low cost for nearly 20 years now, but faster than that has been pretty esoteric outside of the datacentre. I guess there really isn't much demand for faster than gigabit speeds even now (outside of servers?)
Getting stuck to 1 Gbps is somewhat crazy, as even the slowest laptop and PC M.2 SSDs can do 10-20 Gbps easy. Fastest ones 50 Gbps+. But I guess most people don't transfer files in their local networks anymore and use their network purely for internet access.
I don't transfer files super often in my local network, but even when I do, gigabit is... honestly fast enough. Like it's never really bugged me.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#39This would be so much nicer if it was SFP+, 10GBASE-T transceivers are too expensive still IMO.
? They are like $20 for single mode fiber which you can run for miles. https://www.fs.com/de-en/products/11555.html
Exactly. If it was SPF+ you could use that. As it is copper only you need to buy a more expensive (and for most uses less good) copper one for whatever you plug it into.
Re: Add 10 GbE to your system with an M.2 2280 module
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
? They are like $20 for single mode fiber which you can run for miles. https://www.fs.com/de-en/products/11555.html
Exactly. If it was SPF+ you could use that. As it is copper only you need to buy a more expensive (and for most uses less good) copper one for whatever you plug it into.
I think you mean SFP+, small form-factor pluggable, rather than Sun Protection Factor ;)