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Cornell Ergonomics Web finds standing desks present their own issues

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Re: Cornell Ergonomics Web finds standing desks present their own issues

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> In our field studies of sit-stand workstations we have found little evidence of widespread benefits and users only stand for very short-periods (15 minutes or less total per day). Other studies have found that the use of sit-stand stations rapidly declines so that after 1 month a majority of people are sitting all the time. So sit-stand desks are a bad solution because people don't actually use them? What's wrong w…

Can you recommend any models available to be shipped to the States or for purchase here?

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Without any evidence supporting its benefits, the kneeling chair is little more than another fad in cubicle ergonomics. Call me old-fashioned, but I believe the things that are good for you are the things that make you feel good. Lying on a comfortable, supportive mattress is good for you. Sitting in a good chair at your desk is good for you. Walking, and other, more vigorous exercises are good for you. Kneeling in a…

So how does heroin sit in your value system ? Only considering first order effects is very naive.

Heroin is a short-circuit of the brain's reward system. It's a validation of my point, not a refutation. That reward system exists to make us feel good about things that enhance our survival. That means, throughout history, the vast preponderance of things that make us feel good (eating, exercise, sex, etc) are also evolutionarily beneficial. Sure, lately, we've become very good at targeting the pleasure without the effort required to achieve the benefit, but for things like posture I'd still contend that a comfortable position is likely the one that's best for your body. See: slouchers have less back problems than people who sit straight in their chairs.

Re: Cornell Ergonomics Web finds standing desks present their own issues

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I used to want a chording, one-handed keyboard with a strap. I thought that that combined with a PDA (this was a few years ago) would be great for walking and working. But I probably would have walked in front of a bus so it is just as well I never had one.

Walking on a pedestrian trail in a park or the woods would greatly reduce your likelyhood of being hit by a vehicle... it would also be highly rejuvenating (nature is relaxing to most folks).

That was the idea, in fact.

Re: Cornell Ergonomics Web finds standing desks present their own issues

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I was wondering about this. I've been trialing a standing desk - the best part is if you are thinking about a problem you tend to walk, where as if you're sitting down you just tilt your head to the side. But after 4 hours or so I find I get a sore back. I've been "mixin it up"... standing for an hour, sitting for a couple of hours. Or sitting in the morning, standing after lunch... so far it feels pretty good, but I…

I'm having the same experience; I've read a bunch of reports from people stating that their back pain vanishes, while I've found sometimes my (minimal) back pain can get worse on some days. I don't have the option of swapping it around; my "standing desk" is a regular desk with cardboard boxes and telephone books stacked on top ( http://instagr.am/p/MUmlP/ ). At this point I can't get a new regular chair, let alone a…

Give it a bit more.

I've tried this for about a week now, and it's become better already, but not all side effects are gone. It's actually been harder to concentrate for this while due to sore legs...

I think I will stick to it but need another week or so to decide.

Re: Cornell Ergonomics Web finds standing desks present their own issues

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> In our field studies of sit-stand workstations we have found little evidence of widespread benefits and users only stand for very short-periods (15 minutes or less total per day). Other studies have found that the use of sit-stand stations rapidly declines so that after 1 month a majority of people are sitting all the time. So sit-stand desks are a bad solution because people don't actually use them? What's wrong w…

Swede here. Close to everybody has had electric sit-standing desks at my workplace for as long as I know. I've been using sit-standing desks for close to ten years. My use has increased over the years. Now I find it more comfortable to stand than to sit and i use it roughly 80% of the time.

I'd estimate around 25% of the other workers actually use them for standing.

I'm using a large EFG desk. They are available here: http://goo.gl/6YmHR

Re: Cornell Ergonomics Web finds standing desks present their own issues

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post #101

> In our field studies of sit-stand workstations we have found little evidence of widespread benefits and users only stand for very short-periods (15 minutes or less total per day). Other studies have found that the use of sit-stand stations rapidly declines so that after 1 month a majority of people are sitting all the time. So sit-stand desks are a bad solution because people don't actually use them? What's wrong w…

Can you recommend any models available to be shipped to the States or for purchase here?

European Furniture Group has an international site. Check it out: http://goo.gl/6YmHR

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post #9

Another cue to place my twitter bot: http://twitter.com/officeworkout - tweets an exercise every 30 minutes.

Those are some funny 'exercises'. One practice I adopted is to do all my printing in the printer which is 2nd closer to my office. That way every time I print (which is quite often as I read lots of C.S. papers) I have to walk about 40 steps.

I'll add that to the list, thanks! :)

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Many moons ago, my engineering school had classrooms full of wooden drafting tables (not unlike this: http://www.plotter-printers.com/oak-drafting-tables-2/ ). I cannot find online a picture similar to the wooden stools we had: tall, square seat slightly tilted forward at perhaps a 15 degree angle, cross-bars usable as foot-rests. (Later, of course, "progress" occurred and the furniture was replaced with plastic chai…

Like this? http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/bizchair1_2174_1598485773 I've always wondered if these are comfortable or not.

On that one, the lack of foot rests looks very uncomfortable.

My old ones were somewhat like this: http://www.officechairsforless.com/Square-Bar-Stool-ES25VS3....

Except sturdier, unpadded, and slightly tilted forward. They were also slightly pyramidal, resulting in a somewhat narrow seat but making the stool very stable.

P.S. Just found these: http://www.worthingtondirect.com/tables/solid_oak_stool_by_g... . The 30" one is probably closest functionally - I think one just has to slide off the seat to be standing up.

Re: Cornell Ergonomics Web finds standing desks present their own issues

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I'm looking into getting an inversion table. Has anyone used one of these? all the studies have been on people who already have problems such as ruptured or herniated discs.

Yes. They're great. But don't spend too much time inverted.

Re: Cornell Ergonomics Web finds standing desks present their own issues

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Over the last couple of years I've been having a couple of problems at work: increasing lower back pain and decreasing attention span. I had no reason to assume either had anything to do with my desk: I, too, rock the Aeron and think it's comfy as heck. I've got my keyboard and monitor at the right height. I take breaks every 30-60 minutes and go walk around. Etc. But as the back pain kept getting worse, I finally de…

Are you standing while posting on HN now? ;)

Yes.
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