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Re: Do svidaniya, Igor, and thank you for Nginx

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Post by vmurthy »

blunte wrote: post #172

I started with Apache long ago, and then I moved to Nginx. 15+ years have passed. Why did Apache never become a real competitor? I didn't A/B test with Apache and Nginx - I just read slashdot and later HN, and I trusted people who ran much bigger sites. But how could Nginx take such a lead that Apache could never catch up to?

>I just read slashdot and later HN, and I trusted people who ran much bigger sites. But how could Nginx take such a lead that Apache could never catch up to?

I read that in the last 10 years or so, this is what has happened to other successes like Slack etc : The users are becoming the decision makers as opposed to CXO handing down tools. I think developer advocacy was one of the major reasons.

Re: Do svidaniya, Igor, and thank you for Nginx

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Post by chx »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #152
chx wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Wikipedia -- in broad strokes -- just sucks, check what happened to the Scottish Wikipedia (but there are any number of issues in the English one as well, the "no credentials" policy made sure scientists shun it because they don't want to endlessly argue with neckbeards with an agenda). Anyways, https://tadviser.com/index.php/Company:Nginx everything is dropped in Russia, there's a lawsuit in the US but at first…

That's why we rely on people like you to update article at wikipedia, your services are invaluable!

Not in a million years. I am not touching that with a ten feet barge pole.

Re: Do svidaniya, Igor, and thank you for Nginx

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Post by singron »

nkozyra wrote: post #111
dano wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should be remembered that NGINX is used as a reverse proxy for a lot of servers behind the scenes. That NGINX is the web server identified up front doesn't mean as much as it might because of this architectural construct. I use NGINX to front a sites that have Apache on the back end and as a result, the Internet spiders think my websites are running NGINX rather than Apache. NGINX is incredibly easy to configure a…

Granted I've done exactly this before, but why put Nginx in front of Apache? In my experience it added headaches without any real benefit. (Unless you don't mean Apache webserver but rather some other Apache product)

Nginx manages a ton of connections better and can serve static files very fast. It can then multiplex the dynamic requests into fewer connections to Apache. If you mean why not only use nginx, I would guess that's easier than changing your legacy systems to use nginx (e.g. if you have a ton of htaccess files). It's also possible you got better performance with mod_php although most people seem to claim that php-fpm with nginx is faster.

Re: Do svidaniya, Igor, and thank you for Nginx

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Post by merps »

nimbius wrote: post #49

unrelated but ive always thought the F5 acquisition of NGINX made little sense. I think F5 saw the writing on the wall a little late, panicked, and bought the first competitor they could come up with that showed up in a Gartner quadrant. so much of the NGINX product that aligns with F5 as a competitive element is essentially already implemented and free by people who are already completely competent in load balancing…

Well, if may offer a view.. your are correct in your second paragraph the aspect that most people miss is that F5 is not only an enterprise product but primary systems (energy/gas/etc) and Telco (3/4/5G). The acquisition of NGINX is to complement that footprint. Just a different view.. be well yeah..

Re: Do svidaniya, Igor, and thank you for Nginx

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Post by vishnugupta »

aprao wrote: post #186

Can someone summarize what allowed nginx to surmount the C10K problem? Was it some clever trick or just good software design?

IMO Ngnix takes advantage of the fact that most of the web workload is I/O bound. It’s tight loop main thread coupled with asynchronous delegation enables it to stay single threaded. It doesn’t spawn new thread per request which means it doesn’t need additional memory to handle new requests.

This is a very good article which goes into details, highly recommended

http://aosabook.org/en/nginx.html

Re: Do svidaniya, Igor, and thank you for Nginx

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Post by graderjs »

I'm an experienced dev with a deep knowledge of full stack web as well as infrastructure but I've never put nginx in front of any app. I want to but I honestly avoided it because I thought it was difficult. This may not be the right place to ask but is there a good guide for someone who's deep into nodejs who just wants to set up nginx on Debian in front of a node server with https? and just see how it goes.

Re: Do svidaniya, Igor, and thank you for Nginx

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Post by davidzweig »

graderjs wrote: post #207

I'm an experienced dev with a deep knowledge of full stack web as well as infrastructure but I've never put nginx in front of any app. I want to but I honestly avoided it because I thought it was difficult. This may not be the right place to ask but is there a good guide for someone who's deep into nodejs who just wants to set up nginx on Debian in front of a node server with https? and just see how it goes.

NGINX course on https://acloudguru.com/ is good.

Re: Do svidaniya, Igor, and thank you for Nginx

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Post by jcampbell1 »

w-ll wrote: post #190
tentacleuno wrote: post #145

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How would this work if the method field was something like "Gibberish"? Would this have any security vulnerabilities?

If its "Gibberish" I'd suggest it's safer to assume it as a Get request regardless. Something I don't see many people talk about, but I've setup web instances with both read and write clusters similar to db's, and have the nicety to getting more umph from the read cluster by making sure it only hits read db nodes and disabling any framework stuff for tracking changes on a model.

Did you experience any read after write inconsistencies that present as heisenbugs?

Re: Do svidaniya, Igor, and thank you for Nginx

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Post by e98cuenc »

stormbrew wrote: post #16
nkozyra wrote: post #7

I really take for granted how well Nginx works across a number of web backend functions. Some of the container/orchestration world has tried to supplant the need for it as a reverse proxy, but you get so many goodies out of the box just by sticking this in front of your app, and for very little overhead. I remember the pre-Nginx days and all of the struggles people routinely ran into with options like Apache or other…

I mean there was lighttpd before nginx and they have/had pretty similar structures, weights, etc. I feel like I knew at one point why it got so thoroughly supplanted by nginx but I don't remember now why that happened.

The difference is that nginx really works. I had Panoramio, a photo website featured in Google Earth / Maps, using Apache. It started to fail down under load, and I quickly switched to lighttpd. It was faster but crashing, getting OOM, etc. I fixed a memory leak and a few more bugs, but it still crashed every now and then and I looked for alternatives.

This was 2006 and nginx was the only realistic alternative on the market. It worked beautifully since day 1. It saved my startup. Next year we got acquired by Google.

I only got 1 crash with nginx and it was partially my fault, I had an "expires 30y" on some images, and a morning on feb 2008 I came to the office and the whole site was down. After a very quick gdb session under panic I realized it was trying to get a weekday name on an array with a negative index. Nginx was adding 30 years to the current date and that was over 2038 and it overflowed. Igor fixed that issue in hours, and he graciously explained that I could have used "expires max"

Nginx has powered all my startups since then (Freepik, Flaticon, Slidesgo, Besoccer).

This guy has added more real value to the economy than most unicorns. A true hero.

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