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If you expect an honest answer from your candidate, and you don't expect a well-qualified candidate to choose a well-endowed female to be their character of choice, then you're living in a fantasy world. I understand that it's insane to talk about that during an interview, but I think it's fairly common for non-creepy people to choose a character they find pleasurable to look at.

> I understand that it's insane to talk about that during an interview That’s the key part, though. Part of being a professional is knowing how and when to appropriately compartmentalize. Keep the video game heroine fetishes at home. If someone can’t keep that stuff to themselves for an interview, there’s no way they’ll be able to keep it to themselves on the job. Hire someone inept enough to discuss this on an inter…

Huh, you make quite the leap here?

If you ask me what kind of characters I play in an MMO (for example) then I'm going to honestly tell you that as a heterosexual man I find it pleasurable to look at a woman's behind while I'm playing.

That would be ONLY if you ask me "why do you pick females as playable characters?" however, I won't blurt it out of the blue.

I haven't harassed a woman in any capacity, in any setting, work or not, in my life. The mere idea to noticeably ogle a female co-worker or make sexual jokes towards them never even occurred to me. I learned that this is a thing for the first time in my life when I was 29 or so, when one colleague was fired for following two attractive coworkers around and not leaving them alone for a smoke break (WTF).

I think it's fair to give an honest answer if asked "why do you pick female heroines?". And yet it seems you'll flag me as a potential harasser?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you though.

Re: Activision Blizzard pushes out dozens of employees over workplace misconduct

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> I understand that it's insane to talk about that during an interview That’s the key part, though. Part of being a professional is knowing how and when to appropriately compartmentalize. Keep the video game heroine fetishes at home. If someone can’t keep that stuff to themselves for an interview, there’s no way they’ll be able to keep it to themselves on the job. Hire someone inept enough to discuss this on an inter…

Huh, you make quite the leap here? If you ask me what kind of characters I play in an MMO (for example) then I'm going to honestly tell you that as a heterosexual man I find it pleasurable to look at a woman's behind while I'm playing. That would be ONLY if you ask me "why do you pick females as playable characters?" however, I won't blurt it out of the blue. I haven't harassed a woman in any capacity, in any setting…

Depends a lot on what the interviewer actually asked and how they directed the conversation, and also on how the candidate responds. If the interviewer is badgering the candidate to try to force a “damning” response, yeah, that interviewer sucks and is engaged in inappropriate behavior. But if the candidate jumps to tell you he likes to play half-naked characters, that’s also a red flag.

If an interviewer specifically asks if you only play female characters and why, that’s pretty weird. If your response is something like “because I like their jiggly titties” instead of something like “because I find them attractive”, well, that’s even weirder and frankly not work appropriate.

But yeah, if the interviewer is pushing you to discuss your favorite characters, you shouldn’t feel the need to hide the fact that you play female characters. That’s your preference so whatever. That’s different from making it overtly sexual.

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Huh, you make quite the leap here? If you ask me what kind of characters I play in an MMO (for example) then I'm going to honestly tell you that as a heterosexual man I find it pleasurable to look at a woman's behind while I'm playing. That would be ONLY if you ask me "why do you pick females as playable characters?" however, I won't blurt it out of the blue. I haven't harassed a woman in any capacity, in any setting…

Depends a lot on what the interviewer actually asked and how they directed the conversation, and also on how the candidate responds. If the interviewer is badgering the candidate to try to force a “damning” response, yeah, that interviewer sucks and is engaged in inappropriate behavior. But if the candidate jumps to tell you he likes to play half-naked characters, that’s also a red flag. If an interviewer specificall…

Ah, I definitely wouldn't start discussing sexy female features with you on an interview, as if we're two drunk friends in a bar (I don't do that either but anyway).

I'll only answer in a potentially compromising way if pressured by the interviewer -- and even then I'm much more likely to retaliate with "why are you focusing on the fact that I enjoy looking at attractive video game characters so much?".

So my previous comment wasn't very accurate, sorry. But on the rare occasion I think I sense people stigmatizing sexuality itself. Happy to have been wrong.

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Depends a lot on what the interviewer actually asked and how they directed the conversation, and also on how the candidate responds. If the interviewer is badgering the candidate to try to force a “damning” response, yeah, that interviewer sucks and is engaged in inappropriate behavior. But if the candidate jumps to tell you he likes to play half-naked characters, that’s also a red flag. If an interviewer specificall…

Ah, I definitely wouldn't start discussing sexy female features with you on an interview, as if we're two drunk friends in a bar (I don't do that either but anyway). I'll only answer in a potentially compromising way if pressured by the interviewer -- and even then I'm much more likely to retaliate with "why are you focusing on the fact that I enjoy looking at attractive video game characters so much?". So my previou…

Your question was totally appropriate. I can see how my comment could come off the way you read it.

I share your concern about stigmatizing sexuality. People are people and should not have to pretend to be asexual.

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i think the original proverb is actually the fish stinks from the head, which later became the fish rots from the head, but this is biologically incorrect. https://australian.museum/learn/science/stages-of-decomposit... for example you can see the decomposition of a pig, it looks like the head is first, but it is actually the bacteria in the gut.

But you can also see that maggots start in the ear, i don't know enough about Fish-gut bacteria, but you can check a Fish freshness when you smell the Gills the Colors of them and if the Eye is milky...well and sometimes the slime on the fish-skin....maybe that's the history of that proverb (freshness indicator mostly from the gills/eyes...head)

yea, visibly it looks like its starting from the head, and probably the smell comes from there as well, and of course thats where insects can start eating first (eyes, mouth etc)

it is funny though, i have used this proverb hundreds of times, until today i decided to think a bit about it, and look up how bodies decompose.

i wonder if in those big companies actually the leadership takes all the fault, maybe like in 1984, the real power is in the proles, they can change everything if they want.. they just dont seem to want change.

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Question, when these people find a new job will the person hiring them know?

I’ve worked in the gaming industry and I was surprised how some fairly standard questions about creativity, playing games, character development, etc. lead to detailed insights into the candidate’s personality. We’ve had candidates answer “You have to organise a fun evening for the 80 employees of this office. Your budget is $10. What do you do?” (a question meant to leverage their understanding that 70 of those 80 a…

>If they walked passed a female employee, I might ask her if she noticed any sideway look.

I wonder do female candidates get the same test? Not judging, just curious if there is a double standard, and why.

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I agree with both your points. To be honest if the same signal is sent by merely confirming employment dates but not literally disparaging the former employee, I fail to see how there’s any additional legal protection. The implication is tortious interferus in both cases.

That's why many companies don't give any details at all, whether positive or negative. This way your line of argument doesn't apply; not from a logical point of view and also not from a legal point of view: no signal is sent at all.

I agree with you too.

For the sake of my argument, I was conjuring the scenario where companies give either positive recommendations or bare minimum ones.

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Right, but if there’s an applicant from Activision in the next month or so that didn’t leave voluntarily, then it might warrant further inquiry. Presumably some of these folks will need to try to find work ASAP. But months or years down the road chances are slim it’ll stick out.

> that didn’t leave voluntarily How would you know this? I sure as heck have never volunteered information like that.

Most interviewers ask some version of “why did you leave?” or “did you leave voluntarily?”

Not sure what the repercussions are of simply lying to the interviewer though.

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> Conversely, if someone makes their sandbox publicly available, they accept some risk that someone else in it may behave in a way that they don't like. Actually, you don’t have to accept that. That’s what moderation is for.

Moderation is a method to manage the risk, if anything the existence of moderation indicates that platforms accept it to some extent.

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