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Re: Wine 7.0

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Post by _joel »

The_Colonel wrote: post #17
acdha wrote: post #9

I'm hoping that I'm correctly interpreting the WoW64 portion of the notes as meaning that I could run a 32-bit x86 Windows binary using the 64-bit Wine on ARM. I don't have a common need for this but I've had a couple of cases where I needed to test compatibility with something ancient and it would have been great to be able to install something in my development environment. In one of the cases, it was a 64-bit exec…

Wine Is Not an Emulator, so I doubt it will be able to run x86 apps on ARM.

> - The new Apple Silicon Macs are supported, including running x86-64 binaries under Rosetta 2.

Depends which ARM :)

Re: Wine 7.0

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Post by ogogmad »

The_Colonel wrote: post #17
acdha wrote: post #9

I'm hoping that I'm correctly interpreting the WoW64 portion of the notes as meaning that I could run a 32-bit x86 Windows binary using the 64-bit Wine on ARM. I don't have a common need for this but I've had a couple of cases where I needed to test compatibility with something ancient and it would have been great to be able to install something in my development environment. In one of the cases, it was a 64-bit exec…

Wine Is Not an Emulator, so I doubt it will be able to run x86 apps on ARM.

This is a semantics debate, but it kind of is an emulator. Instead of emulating a CPU, it emulates the Windows API. That's obviously a major difference: One is inherently slower, while the other is inherently more complicated.

WINE originally stood for "Windows Emulator", but for trademark reasons it was changed to "Wine Is Not An Emulator". That's giving you some mixed messages now, isn't it? [edit] I just checked Wikipedia, and that's not true -- the name wasn't changed due to a trademark problem, it was changed due to a genuine confusion about what the term "emulator" meant.

Re: Wine 7.0

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Post by loosescrews »

ogogmad wrote: post #8
HeckFeck wrote: post #3

I recently used Wine to run Office 97 on Debian, just for old time's sake. I ended up liking it so much that I now use it for my word processing and spreadsheet tasks. This classic version is feature complete to me. Wine ensures it lives on, long past its support date and on an alien operating system. And clippit says hello! Screenshot for the curious: https://imgur.com/a/GmVUAfC It shows Word 97 on Linux editing a l…

What modern MS Office features are missing from '97 but still useful? I'm thinking you won't be able to write formulas using Latex. There's also a 32-bit limit for the amount of memory a program can use.

Crash recovery

OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice always used to do this much better than Microsoft, but my understanding is that Microsoft has made more of an effort more recently.

It is also useful if the program gets unexpectedly closed (for example by a reboot).

Re: Wine 7.0

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Post by melissalobos »

> Once the remaining modules are converted to PE, this will make it possible to run 32-bit applications without installing 32-bit Unix libraries.

That sounds really amazing, I can't wait. That will really simplify using 32bit windows programs on a 64 bit OS.

Re: Wine 7.0

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Post by cqz »

So as a Wine end-user, it looks like this release means no more having to have multiple wineprefixes to support both 32/64 bit applications, and also no more need to ensure libraries like libpng zlib etc are installed, either 32 or 64 bits? That seems quite nice.

Re: Wine 7.0

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Post by acdha »

The_Colonel wrote: post #17
acdha wrote: post #9

I'm hoping that I'm correctly interpreting the WoW64 portion of the notes as meaning that I could run a 32-bit x86 Windows binary using the 64-bit Wine on ARM. I don't have a common need for this but I've had a couple of cases where I needed to test compatibility with something ancient and it would have been great to be able to install something in my development environment. In one of the cases, it was a 64-bit exec…

Wine Is Not an Emulator, so I doubt it will be able to run x86 apps on ARM.

I'm aware of what the acronym originally meant, but this was listed as working in the 6.x series for 64-bit x86 apps.

Re: Wine 7.0

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Post by jhpaul »

ogogmad wrote: post #8
HeckFeck wrote: post #3

I recently used Wine to run Office 97 on Debian, just for old time's sake. I ended up liking it so much that I now use it for my word processing and spreadsheet tasks. This classic version is feature complete to me. Wine ensures it lives on, long past its support date and on an alien operating system. And clippit says hello! Screenshot for the curious: https://imgur.com/a/GmVUAfC It shows Word 97 on Linux editing a l…

What modern MS Office features are missing from '97 but still useful? I'm thinking you won't be able to write formulas using Latex. There's also a 32-bit limit for the amount of memory a program can use.

It looks like you're writing a letter.

Would you like help?

Re: Wine 7.0

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Post by lillecarl »

_joel wrote: post #21
The_Colonel wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wine Is Not an Emulator, so I doubt it will be able to run x86 apps on ARM.

> - The new Apple Silicon Macs are supported, including running x86-64 binaries under Rosetta 2. Depends which ARM :)

Not really though, it's just another layer which isn't wine. They might put effort in to help Rosetta translate, but wine is not an emulator.

Re: Wine 7.0

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Post by nopenopenopeno »

I use Wine to run Photoshop CC 2018 on Ubuntu LTS and my life would be very different if that were not possible.

For those curious, no I don’t use a licensed version, but I would if that were possible. Maybe it is with Wine 7.0. I will give it a try. Both Photoshop CC 2018 and Illustrator CC 2019 run flawlessly with hires monitor support and all.

Re: Wine 7.0

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Post by haunter »

HeckFeck wrote: post #3

I recently used Wine to run Office 97 on Debian, just for old time's sake. I ended up liking it so much that I now use it for my word processing and spreadsheet tasks. This classic version is feature complete to me. Wine ensures it lives on, long past its support date and on an alien operating system. And clippit says hello! Screenshot for the curious: https://imgur.com/a/GmVUAfC It shows Word 97 on Linux editing a l…

I do the same with Office 2003! There is even a compability pack for docx/xlsx files so it's really good

Edit: If anyone needs it. Looks like MS removed the original download but still available from CNET https://download.cnet.com/Microsoft-Office-Compatibility-Pac...

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