More than likely, because switching to Linux also drops all the "paid pre-installed windows software" (companies paying Dell to pre-install their software) then this jump in price would give a hint as to how much Dell receives in payment for pre-installing all those windows extras.
What is the software that gets installed and what does it do? Do they actually show ads ?
Ask HN: Why the $200 Overhead on Dell XPS Laptops with Linux?
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Re: Ask HN: Why the $200 Overhead on Dell XPS Laptops with Linux?
#12Re: Ask HN: Why the $200 Overhead on Dell XPS Laptops with Linux?
#13Linux might be rare enough that they only make Windows machines and then have someone pull one out of the box put Linux on it if requested.
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#14Just ran into this buying a laptop! I bought the Windows one, nuked it, and had Ubuntu installed in like 15 minutes :D
Yeah I was kinda wondering, what's their game plan here? Hope that people don't notice the price difference and DIY it? Might just be what someone else said, this is what Dell is not being paid to pre-install whatever
Re: Ask HN: Why the $200 Overhead on Dell XPS Laptops with Linux?
#15Just ran into this buying a laptop! I bought the Windows one, nuked it, and had Ubuntu installed in like 15 minutes :D
Yeah I was kinda wondering, what's their game plan here? Hope that people don't notice the price difference and DIY it? Might just be what someone else said, this is what Dell is not being paid to pre-install whatever
Re: Ask HN: Why the $200 Overhead on Dell XPS Laptops with Linux?
#16One thing to note is that using Arch I haven't had any issues with hardware on any computer I've tried, and usually you can find a comparable Acer or MSI with much better specs for significantly less. I usually don't see much benefit with purchasing overpriced hardware.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is the software that gets installed and what does it do? Do they actually show ads ?
Norton 360, which if memory serves has been a stalwart of the preinstall game now installs an opt-in Cryptominer. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/01/norton-360-now-comes-wit...
Re: Ask HN: Why the $200 Overhead on Dell XPS Laptops with Linux?
#18More than likely, because switching to Linux also drops all the "paid pre-installed windows software" (companies paying Dell to pre-install their software) then this jump in price would give a hint as to how much Dell receives in payment for pre-installing all those windows extras.
What is the software that gets installed and what does it do? Do they actually show ads ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfish#Lenovo_security_inci...
Re: Ask HN: Why the $200 Overhead on Dell XPS Laptops with Linux?
#19I think you nailed it. Free as in freedom, not free beer.
Re: Ask HN: Why the $200 Overhead on Dell XPS Laptops with Linux?
#201) Their production pipeline is optimized for windows, so Linux is a deviation requiring some manual intervention that costs extra.
2) Deals with Microsoft, wherein MS incentivizes them Dell based on some criteria, including but not limited to units sold. This is similar to car dealerships with quotas.
3) As others have noted, 3rd Party crapware deals for putting preinstalled crapware on Windows laptops. Fewer such opportunities exist for Linux laptops