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Re: VMware Fusion 4 Released

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Post by rnicholson » Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 7:53 PM UTC

sciurus wrote: post #2

Release notes https://www.vmware.com/support/fusion4/doc/releasenotes_fusi... It runs Windows 8. http://twitter.com/#!/VMwareFusion/status/113988639339450368

Mac OS X Lion and Mac OS X Lion Server are now supported as guest operating systems. Mac OS X Lion can be installed by dragging the Lion installer icon to the virtual machine wizard.

Nice! So, how exactly does one do this? The Lion Installer seems to be gone from my system since I upgraded to Lion...

Re: VMware Fusion 4 Released

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Post by colinr » Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 8:07 PM UTC

I've just given it a quick go and gone straight back to v3. Fusion on Lion still lacks native full screen and the interface feels a lot slower. Nevermind, maybe a rush to compete with Parallels?

Re: VMware Fusion 4 Released

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Post by sirn » Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 8:54 PM UTC

sirn wrote: post #7

They seems to change the EULA to allow installing on as may Macs as long as you own it[1], compared to previous license[2]: You are prohibited from installing and using the Software on more than one computer at a time [1]: http://twitter.com/#!/VMwareFusion/status/113994645062684672 [2]: http://www.vmware.com/download/eula/fusion3.html

Can't edit my comment for some reason, but EULA now reads (from VMware Fusion 4 installation):

    VMware Fusion
    
    You may install and use the Software for personal, non-commercial use
    on any Apple-branded products running Mac OS X (“Mac Computer”) that
    you own or control.

Re: VMware Fusion 4 Released

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Post by ryannielsen » Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 10:00 PM UTC

rnicholson wrote: post #31

sciurus wrote: post #2

Release notes https://www.vmware.com/support/fusion4/doc/releasenotes_fusi... It runs Windows 8. http://twitter.com/#!/VMwareFusion/status/113988639339450368

Mac OS X Lion and Mac OS X Lion Server are now supported as guest operating systems. Mac OS X Lion can be installed by dragging the Lion installer icon to the virtual machine wizard. Nice! So, how exactly does one do this? The Lion Installer seems to be gone from my system since I upgraded to Lion...

Re-download Lion from the Mac App Store. You'll find it under the "Purchases" section. Everything in that section can be re-downloaded and reinstalled for free.

Re: VMware Fusion 4 Released

#35

Post by evilduck » Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 10:39 PM UTC

yardie wrote: post #27

evilduck wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except for OSX VMs built using Fusion's built-in capabilities. The other VMware products don't ship the required libraries to boot them.

You have to downgrade the vmx to prep a fusion vm to be loaded into esx. Or you can download the vmware convertor app that will transfer the vm, convert the vmx, and register the vm in esx. I use the application weekly for this task.

I meant OSX as a guest OS.

Re: VMware Fusion 4 Released

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Post by marchdown » Thu, Sep 15, 2011, 1:41 AM UTC

Free update for those who bought Fusion 3 after the release of Lion! [1]. No word on pricing for old clients as of yet.

[1]: https://twitter.com/#!/VMwareFusion/status/11410952248165990...

Re: VMware Fusion 4 Released

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Post by Uchikoma » Thu, Sep 15, 2011, 7:30 AM UTC

pat2man wrote: post #16

alexg0 wrote: post #10

As a new Mac convert, why would one use this, instead of VirtualBox?

Fusion and Parallels both are a bit faster than VirtualBox and have more features. Also, VMWare VMs will work with any VMWare product so if you are working with a team that uses VMWare elsewhere its nice to have. If you are just trying to run a Windows app or two you are probably better off with VirtualBox since its free.

My reason: I've been using VirtualBox for running dev server environments. What happened: VM shutdowns, without any way to start them again (buttons just gray), files corrupted, interfaces lost, ....

Re: VMware Fusion 4 Released

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Post by yardie » Fri, Sep 16, 2011, 7:33 AM UTC

evilduck wrote: post #35

yardie wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to downgrade the vmx to prep a fusion vm to be loaded into esx. Or you can download the vmware convertor app that will transfer the vm, convert the vmx, and register the vm in esx. I use the application weekly for this task.

I meant OSX as a guest OS.

For that you'll need a machine with SMC and only Macs have it.

Re: VMware Fusion 4 Released

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Post by danbee » Fri, Sep 16, 2011, 11:25 AM UTC

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #23

Still no 3D support on linux, and I don't see any mention of pause/resume support for Boot Camp partitions. Disappointing. Parallels has had both of these for a while. Useful (but not updated for 4): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VMware_Fusion_and...

There's a good reason why you can't. If you suspend Boot Camp in VMware and then try and reboot into it it could cause corruption of your Boot Camp partition. If you really want to do it though I seem to remember reading about a plist tweak that adds the options back in.

Edit: http://communities.vmware.com/thread/108022

Re: VMware Fusion 4 Released

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Post by danbee » Fri, Sep 16, 2011, 11:28 AM UTC

suking wrote: post #28

I don't even get how people can use VMware. I've tried it on my macbook and it's unbearably slow. I bought a cheap PC off of craigslist because VMware was too slow to use. 4 gigs of ram and still lagged like all hell.

I found my 2010 MacBook Pro with 4Gb unbearably slow even without running VMware Fusion. Mac OS X really requires 8Gb these days, unless you're running an SSD.