Is Google Search Deteriorating? Measuring Google's Search Quality in 2022 • Hacker News Board

Re: Is Google Search Deteriorating? Measuring Google's Search Quality in 2022

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Post by eru » Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 6:55 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #414

mcv wrote: post #374

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Well, every social media network tries to capture and monetize this, of course. But yes, it would be nice to have this in a less proprietary way. But I fear it's either going to be a privacy issue (because the person you trust has to publish every page they like and dislike), or it's going to be anonymous and therefore easily gamed by bad actors.

If the group of trusted people in a bubble is large enough (say 1000s of people), then it wouldn't be a problem, I suppose. For example, I wouldn't mind sharing my upvoted websites/videos/products with everyone on HN, as long as it is anonymized. Bad actors can be distrusted by the community, I suppose (though moderation seems to be largely an unsolved problem still).

Anonymization is actually really, really hard.

Re: Is Google Search Deteriorating? Measuring Google's Search Quality in 2022

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Post by eru » Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 6:56 AM UTC

PoignardAzur wrote: post #298

machiaweliczny wrote: post #244

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What if they took only votes from people that pay and have account for X time? Also what’s the problem with adding revert per user? With some events architekture it should be trivial. They could even train AI on this data to automatically sugest suspects.

Here's an easy thought experiment: for any propose of the type "what if they had a system that did X?", imagine that someone tells you they'll give you 10 million dollars if you can figure out a way to game that system that can't be detected by Google. If you spend 5 minutes on it, can you think of a way? If you can, congratulations, now imagine millions of other people thought about the same tricks and you get the r…

Google might not be able to 'win', but they can stay ahead.

Eg if they can get to a place where SEO efforts point in the same direction as making your website genuinely more useful to people, then that's good enough for Google.

Re: Is Google Search Deteriorating? Measuring Google's Search Quality in 2022

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Post by realAzazello » Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 12:28 AM UTC

machiaweliczny wrote: post #241

cik wrote: post #228

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I've found my result quality has gone up dramatically now that I use extensions allowing me to block domains from google search results. It seems silly that I ought have to do this, but Google has finally become useful again as a result.

Could you provide name of this extension?

I use the userscript "Google Hit Hider by Domain (Search Filter / Block Sites)" by Jefferson Scher, whom you may know as one of the top support specialist at Mozilla: http://www.jeffersonscher.com/gm/google-hit-hider/

"GHHbD" is a precursor to uBlacklist; and was for many years THE replacement to blocking sites on Google Search after Google removed the built-in function.

It also has a 'Block' button next to the search results (remember, the script existed long before uBlacklist), which allows to grey-out or hide results, based on subdomains down to the base domain.

The disadvantage of GHHbD is that it doesn't handled regex filtering. However one of its many advantages is that it does block TLDs: https://greasyfork.org/en/forum/discussion/comment/55821/#Co...