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US claims jurisdiction over all .com/.net sites even if outside the US (2011)

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Re: US claims jurisdiction over all .com/.net sites even if outside the US (2011)

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post #7

In more recent news, this tech https://handshake.org/ is aimed at this kind of jurisdictional issue. Limiting the reach of a US court or any other central org for that matter at shutting down a domain .com, .net or other.

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Re: US claims jurisdiction over all .com/.net sites even if outside the US (2011)

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They always have, the internet originated from U.S. defense, (was that not domain name allocation)? residing physicaly with-in a country never mattered. they still consider it ownership.

wasen't this why russia/ussr didn't adhear to US ip's on their local lan?

is this not the same as FAA wanting all the control, including foreign airspace and the space whithin your ceiling?

you physically do not have control over something but still want to say it's yours. that's what this is, no?

Re: US claims jurisdiction over all .com/.net sites even if outside the US (2011)

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those servers are only necessary for the ICANN tlds and those will continue to act as they do today, even in a Handshake future. With Handshake, you run your own authoritative server (or use a hosted one) for your own name and that authoritative server's information will be obtainable on chain. No middle-man, no rent seeking.

I understand how handshake works. What I'm saying is that getting my mom to point her DNS servers at an alternate server is a non-starter. You have to get the root servers on board to carry all TLDs or most people will never find them.

Browser extensions and apps can start resolving alternate roots using non-DNS methods for those who opt-in.

Re: US claims jurisdiction over all .com/.net sites even if outside the US (2011)

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post #43
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand how handshake works. What I'm saying is that getting my mom to point her DNS servers at an alternate server is a non-starter. You have to get the root servers on board to carry all TLDs or most people will never find them.

Browser extensions and apps can start resolving alternate roots using non-DNS methods for those who opt-in.

Sure, but again, that will never take off. "Install this plugin to access our website" is a non-starter for most people.

Re: US claims jurisdiction over all .com/.net sites even if outside the US (2011)

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post #7

In more recent news, this tech https://handshake.org/ is aimed at this kind of jurisdictional issue. Limiting the reach of a US court or any other central org for that matter at shutting down a domain .com, .net or other.

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Re: US claims jurisdiction over all .com/.net sites even if outside the US (2011)

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post #44
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Browser extensions and apps can start resolving alternate roots using non-DNS methods for those who opt-in.

Sure, but again, that will never take off. "Install this plugin to access our website" is a non-starter for most people.

It doesn't seem different from "install this app" to access our services though? And clearly, this model has proliferated with fluidity.

Re: US claims jurisdiction over all .com/.net sites even if outside the US (2011)

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post #46

This article is from 2011. Notably since then, the Department of Commerce’s control ended in 2016: https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/cheers-to-the-multist... https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/stewardship-o...

Even with a CIC, the Operation continues [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_In_Our_Sites

Re: US claims jurisdiction over all .com/.net sites even if outside the US (2011)

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post #46

This article is from 2011. Notably since then, the Department of Commerce’s control ended in 2016: https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/cheers-to-the-multist... https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/stewardship-o...

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Re: US claims jurisdiction over all .com/.net sites even if outside the US (2011)

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post #46

This article is from 2011. Notably since then, the Department of Commerce’s control ended in 2016: https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/cheers-to-the-multist... https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/stewardship-o...

Even with a CIC, the Operation continues [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_In_Our_Sites

> to detect and hinder intellectual property violations on the Internet

by detecting and hindering domain name intellectual property

double plus based

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