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Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by yskchu » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 7:09 PM UTC

pnathan wrote: post #270

samwillis wrote: post #35

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While I don't entirely agree with you I do think the price of Netflix is getting a little higher than the value we personally get out of it. Our personal breakdown this year (in the UK): Adults in the house, we are quite picky but if we love it then we will keep watching: Netflix @£9.99: 2 tv shows, 4-5 films Apple TV+ @£4.99: 3 tv shows, 2 films Disney Plus @£7.99: 1 tv show, Loads of movies Amazon Prime @£7.99: 3 t…

After having sampled Disney+, HBOMax, Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime a fair bit in the past year, my take is that Netflix has the UX nailed. I can, for instance, "thumbs down" a recommendation. Some offerings I never want to see. Their catalog tends to the darker themes, and I'm not fond of that. Hulu and Amazon Prime are mostly irrelevant to me. I'll probably axe the Hulu sub. HBO has a few things I like. Disney+ t…

I agree with you that the Netflix UI is superb for browsing, however I have one major gripe - on Android TV they broke the back button.

I had to hardcode a kill app shortcut just for them.

For all other android tv apps that I have been using so far, the back button works normally, exiting the app at the topmost layer. However, repeated clicks of the back button in netflix UI just re-triggers the menu - part of their dark patterns to make it harder to quit the app...

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by rightbyte » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 7:09 PM UTC

FalconSensei wrote: post #269

rightbyte wrote: post #76

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Ye Netflix subscribers are paying more for less.

I don't know about US, but here in CA the Netflix catalog is way better than the alternatives (expect maybe for Crave, but that's more expensive)

Depends on what we are comparing to.

I used to have a movie rental around the corner. For like 3USD I could rent any movie I wanted from all major publishers. Old and new.

9USD/month for a rather small selection of those is just bad. The buffet fallacy is strong with how people value all you can eat streaming vs. one of rentals.

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by cm2012 » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 7:10 PM UTC

berberous wrote: post #279

cm2012 wrote: post #173

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Plus Arcane which is in the top 20 tv shows of all time on IMBD.

First I’ve heard of Arcane. Is it actually good and worth watching if I have zero interest and know nothing about Lol, or is it really just rated highly because of anime/gaming fans?

I've never played league and don't like most anime, just found the show and thought it was amazing.

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by ssully » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 7:10 PM UTC

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #120

rchaud wrote: post #116

The golden age of Netflix was when it had a full library of other networks' shows. It was completely unsustainable at $8.99/mo or whatever it was back in 2013-15. The price of the brick went up each time renewal discussions happened, and the rights holders were planning to set up their own networks anyway. What I didn't anticipate was how fast Netflix would dump AAA content and replace it with a deluge of B and C gra…

The scary thing for me is what is the outcome of a generation that has watched nothing but pure mental junk food like the Netflix top 10 list is?

You could literally replace "Netflix top 10" with any popular media that was a boogey man in previous generations including rap music, video games, MTV, rock and roll, horror movies, etc.

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by irrational » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 7:10 PM UTC

samwillis wrote: post #35

discardable_dan wrote: post #2

I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

While I don't entirely agree with you I do think the price of Netflix is getting a little higher than the value we personally get out of it. Our personal breakdown this year (in the UK): Adults in the house, we are quite picky but if we love it then we will keep watching: Netflix @£9.99: 2 tv shows, 4-5 films Apple TV+ @£4.99: 3 tv shows, 2 films Disney Plus @£7.99: 1 tv show, Loads of movies Amazon Prime @£7.99: 3 t…

Same here. We’ve cancelled everything except for Disney+. Well, we also have Amazon prime, but that is mainly for the shipping. We rarely watch anything on Amazon.

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by ssully » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 7:12 PM UTC

stathibus wrote: post #10

Netflix is part of the FAANG acronym because they have all these highly paid engineers. Presumably those people have been doing something for the past 5 years in anticipation of being disrupted by Disney/HBO/etc. besides maintaining their CDN and tweaking recommendation engines, but it's not clear what - the product is more or less the same as it always was.

I couldn't tell you what they are doing, but Netflix easily has the best app experience out of any of the streaming platforms and it isn't even close. I've been using HBO Max and Disney+ a lot over the last few months. Plenty of good content, but I pretty consistently have issues with both of their apps.

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by morelisp » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 7:12 PM UTC

greg7gkb wrote: post #345

discardable_dan wrote: post #2

I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

> Netflix is on the very fast downward slope I don't think the data is proving this out at all. Streaming will probably be a winner-take-most market and Netflix is on track to remain the leader. We'll see what total 2021 subscriber growth was on Thursday, but estimates for Q4 are still around a net addition of 8 million subscribers. Compare this with Disney Plus growth in the same period of 2 million subscribers and…

> Netflix still managed to create the two most watched movies _ever_ on the platform

By what metrics that they didn't slice just to be able to say this?

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Post by 1123581321 » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 7:13 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #145

newsbinator wrote: post #50

> But Netflix’s quarterly subscriber growth is now slowing in spite of spending more money than ever on content To me the problem is the content. They now seem to produce shows for particular niches that are never my niche. Some of these extremely expensive shows are laughably low quality on all fronts: story, acting, stylistic choices, cinematography/direction... everything. Take the new Cowboy Bebop: it's obviously…

Yep, sometimes Netflix manages to produce a good season one of a new series, but they lack the ability create followup seasons. My favorite example is Luke Cage. Season one is fantastic, but season two is so bad that it makes you think that season one was written by someone else entirely. The main issue for Netflix has been losing their back catalog, as the content owners started offering their own streaming services…

Not taking away from your main point, but the ABC-Marvel-Netflix shows were sandbagged by Ike Perlmutter at Marvel, who wouldn't let them be treated as first-class citizens with the movies. Daredevil was still pretty sweet across all seasons, thankfully.

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Post by Grustaf » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 7:14 PM UTC

qudat wrote: post #113

discardable_dan wrote: post #2

I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

Once The Office, Parks and Rec, and 30 Rock were removed from Netflix I haven't needed to resub since. The only sub I permanently keep is YoutubePremium.

The office is still there in the Danish version

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Post by brummm » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 7:14 PM UTC

yonaguska wrote: post #172

arch-ninja wrote: post #127

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I cancelled my subscription shortly after they started getting rid of small-time films and started producing their own content; the two reasons were (1) I don't like businesses that can't cooperate with others and (2) their own content sucks and likely continues to suck to this day because their KPI is "how many people watched >1s of this?" and not "did we allow passionate, talented people to do work they are now pro…

I actually surprisingly enjoy their international content, Dark, Squid Game, Vikings, etc- but their American content does suck. It also comes off as too preachy/propaganda-ish. If I was actually the one paying for the account, I simply wouldn't subscribe.

I don't think Vikings is a Netflix show.