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Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Honestly, at $167 a year the content on Netflix is very…blah. Yet it’s also very diverse with more niches and sub-genres to explore. Also it’s foreign content is amazing and has introduced me to things like wuxia, xianxia, the Scandinavian Police Procedural, and Whatever The Heck French Cinema Is Doing These Days.

Unfortunately, with the content being so vast and “throw it at the wall” I’ve found it’s recommendation engine is becoming far, far worse.

The Lost Daughter is exactly the sort of Indie Film Navel Gazing Trash (TM) that I want to watch on my iPad in bed. I only found out about the movie from a Reddit post. It did not once hit the hero banner on any of my devices, much less surface in a recommendation category further down. I’ve thumbs up’ed several movies of similar style, content, and even actors (Olivia Colman ALONE should surface it in my recommendations considering how many things she’s in were thumbs-upped.)

There’s also the weird place that the whole “My List” feature sits. Sometimes their A/B testing (or something) completely removes it from my home screen. All I get is “Keep Watching” and then recommendations. However, adding a show to your list seems to suck you immediately into a black hole of just that thing. It completely overrides the recommendation engine until you go out of your way to watch something else.

I dunno, I just keep finding my interactions with Netflix baffling and with the price continuing to rise harder and harder to justify outside of picking up for a month at time when my “Things to watch on Netflix” list hits a show and two movies worth.

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> As far as I can tell they've succeeded at becoming HBO. Have they? Have they really? As far as I can tell, nothing that Netflix has ever done in-house has ever come close to the best of the cable channels. Like, The Witcher is fine, but Game of Thrones it is not, neither in quality nor buzz/cultural significance. House of Cards is no Succession and Ozark is no Breaking Bad. Nothing they have could even come close t…

Discussing only on the merits of their content, and stipulating that this is neither here nor there with respect to Netflix's long-term prospects vs. HBO: Breaking Bad isn't an HBO show. So I assume we're just asking, "has Netflix produced any world-class content". The answer to that is yes. The jewel in their crown, their "Game of Thrones", is clearly Stranger Things. It's undeniably successful, each new season a cu…

I think Stranger Things season 1 had a big buzz to it, but it feels like culturally, it completely dropped off after season 1. I’m sure the fans still like it, but I just don’t hear broad swaths of people talk about it anymore after that.

Game of Thrones had far more consistent cultural impact across all seasons (although they managed to nuke its legacy completely with the horrible last season).

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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I wish Netflix understood how tone-deaf their engineering blog can come off. They frequently tote how they're 'saving bandwidth' with this optimization or that optimization. If you have a mid-range or better TV and care about quality, you'll notice pretty quickly that their bitrates are abysmal.

I get it, they are responsible for a lot of bits flying through the matrix and they need to be smart about it. But I expect quality to remain the same or get better over time, not get worse. It's not engineering at that point, it's accounting.

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I really hope Netflix proves everyone wrong. HBO and Disney+ may have a huge advantage but neither seems interested in the tech side. Disney+ may be OK now (it's been a while since I checked) but HBO Max seems to be extremely inconsistent when it comes to streaming quality. Even new, popular shows like Euphoria on HBO Max are only 1080p with a bitrate so low that the frequent, dimly lit scenes are a blocky mess. At t…

I dropped Netflix about a year ago in no small part because any show with dark scenes (e.g., "Stranger Things") look like a blocky mess in HD. For a while, I thought somehow my network was at fault, but I don't have the issue with other services. When I looked into it, it seems Netflix's HD compression is bad on OLED displays and the "solution" is to pay them a premium to get 4K streams. Meanwhile, the other provider…

The 4k subscription is easy to share with friends/family and looks great on OLED. Getting a group together to split subscriptions is something that really wasn't possible with cable but greatly increases the value of these services.

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Although, if you're interested in one offering on a service, you really only need to be actively subscribed for 1-2 months a year (to watch the newest season)?

I think that's a major challenge here and it will ultimately drive up the costs for everyone. Subscribe for 6 months = 50% annual discount Subscribe for 4 months = 67% annual discount Subscribe for 2 months = 83% annual discount etc. And that looks great! But producing the content costs the same regardless. So as more people do this, a vicious cycle will set in. Prices must increase to cover production costs with sho…

Or maybe the market will naturally transition to an a la carte model, and we will maybe pay more for that one show we have to watch, but pay less overall, and have fewer recurring bills to clean up?

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dropped Netflix about a year ago in no small part because any show with dark scenes (e.g., "Stranger Things") look like a blocky mess in HD. For a while, I thought somehow my network was at fault, but I don't have the issue with other services. When I looked into it, it seems Netflix's HD compression is bad on OLED displays and the "solution" is to pay them a premium to get 4K streams. Meanwhile, the other provider…

How would the compression change for OLED vs standard LCD etc? I guess it could be generally bad but only noticeable on a OLED?

OLEDs can display true black whereas standard LCDs cannot. If the black regions are compressed and blacks become something close to black, but not quite, it looks bad on an OLED as that region is illuminated. Netflix appears to compress blacks very heavily, so you end up with large rectangles of slightly different dark shades, none of which are really black.

I'm not an expert on panel technology, but I think because LCDs have a backlight, the issue isn't as pronounced there. It just kinda washes out.

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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The scary thing for me is what is the outcome of a generation that has watched nothing but pure mental junk food like the Netflix top 10 list is?

What about the outcome of a generation that watched nothing but reality TV, Fear Factor, and prank shows? Not disagreeing with you entirely, but I don't think it's scary, because it's nothing new to have swaths of people exclusively consuming low-quality junk.

Yeah it went really poorly, have you watched the news lately?

I get it that people said it about movies and tv before, but these Netflix movies aren't even movies, they are subhuman Hallmark Channel level crap.

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I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

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Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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> But Netflix’s quarterly subscriber growth is now slowing in spite of spending more money than ever on content To me the problem is the content. They now seem to produce shows for particular niches that are never my niche. Some of these extremely expensive shows are laughably low quality on all fronts: story, acting, stylistic choices, cinematography/direction... everything. Take the new Cowboy Bebop: it's obviously…

Yep, sometimes Netflix manages to produce a good season one of a new series, but they lack the ability create followup seasons. My favorite example is Luke Cage. Season one is fantastic, but season two is so bad that it makes you think that season one was written by someone else entirely. The main issue for Netflix has been losing their back catalog, as the content owners started offering their own streaming services…

discoverability on netflix has been incredibly poor for many years. i don't want to dig through infinite feeds of twee-sounding categories your algorithm came up with. i don't want to see what you think i want (a bunch of cheaper derivatives of things i've already watched). i want to look for specific things in specific categories and find them. i don't even recommend movies on netflix to friends and family anymore because now it's a coinflip whether they'll still be available. but the most damning indictment i've witnessed is that my technologically illiterate parents have simply gone back to getting dvds from the library.

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

I wouldn't write them off yet. Disney, Apple and Amazon seem the only real competitors as this is a game of scale. Disney is even more content limited and better for kids. Apple never got it right, cant see them fixing it now. And Amazon stuffed it between their mixed model where half the stuff you want to watch has extra fees + generally limited inclusive content, though the prime membership might buy that back. Bot…

> I wouldn't write them off yet. Disney, Apple and Amazon seem the only real competitors as this is a game of scale.

Their play here might just be waiting for Paramount+ and Peacock to throw in the towel and license their catalogs.

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