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Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by FinalBriefing »

Gustomaximus wrote: post #59
discardable_dan wrote: post #2

I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

I wouldn't write them off yet. Disney, Apple and Amazon seem the only real competitors as this is a game of scale. Disney is even more content limited and better for kids. Apple never got it right, cant see them fixing it now. And Amazon stuffed it between their mixed model where half the stuff you want to watch has extra fees + generally limited inclusive content, though the prime membership might buy that back. Bot…

What do you mean by "Apple never got it right"?

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Post by quadrifoliate »

daemin wrote: post #224
quadrifoliate wrote: post #111

Netflix will be probably be the cable "channel" I think of canceling last, for the simple reason that their usage ergonomics are stupidly simple. When I go to the Netflix app, I have a simple value proposition – pay money for viewing, in any country across the world if it's a Netflix original , and without any add-on crap. The only thing they did wrong was autoplaying previews, and I hope whoever was responsible for…

"Outside USA", might be a niche case for you but it's the main reality for most people. It's the best thing about Netflix that I can have an account in any country and go to any other country and still access most content. I've got some other services too, so I'll see how they cope with me being in a totally different country to the one I subscribed in initially.

:) It's not a niche use case for me either; I was just trying to account for the fact that it is likely niche to most of HN's (likely US-centric) readership.

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Post by mvanbaak »

toxik wrote: post #100
yulaow wrote: post #52

Here in Europe netflix content/catalog is degrading so rapidly that I have no reason anymore - since at least an year and half - to keep a subscription up, especially for what it costs now. Last time I resubscribed to look at it was in December and I just ended up watching just squid game and rewatching narcos. Nothing else interesting anymore in there, and their own IPs are mostly bad I am honestly sad for how the m…

It's a larger problem than that, isn't it? We collectively moved from piracy to Netflix and other streaming platforms because the appeal was gone. But pulling the rug from underneath your users and removing movies and TV series they have built a relationship to just serves to piss off the very people you expect to pay for your service -- I understand it's a "complicated" IP problem (really, it's just too many greedy…

This.

Cancelling shows, pulling content to replace it with ... nothing (sometimes they pull content to force users to watch the new netflix original reboot), providing only a subset of available subtitles/audiotracks based on the region of your account ...

Really, today it's actually A LOT easier to pirate content and have tools to automatically fetch missing subtitles then to follow netflix content before it is sent to the void.

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Post by rmahan »

imbnwa wrote: post #215
mgkimsal wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The halo effect that "Netflix Original" used to have thanks to shows like House of Cards... It wasn't even 'original' in that it was a UK series years earlier. I understand they made changes, and, IIRC, milked it for a lot more than the UK series. But that wasn't... "original". Good original series though. There's likely more good UK stuff Netflix could mine.

We talkin Peaky Blinders and The Last Kingdom? Anything else?

The great British “baking show” or bake off, depending if pillsbury owns the trademark for bake off where you’re from.

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Post by babyshake »

samwillis wrote: post #35
discardable_dan wrote: post #2

I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

While I don't entirely agree with you I do think the price of Netflix is getting a little higher than the value we personally get out of it. Our personal breakdown this year (in the UK): Adults in the house, we are quite picky but if we love it then we will keep watching: Netflix @£9.99: 2 tv shows, 4-5 films Apple TV+ @£4.99: 3 tv shows, 2 films Disney Plus @£7.99: 1 tv show, Loads of movies Amazon Prime @£7.99: 3 t…

Is there any decent way of creating a custom kids profile, ideally one that cuts across multiple services? For example, I would like my child to be able to watch 5 shows on Disney+, 4 movies on Netflix, etc.

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Post by redisman »

t_h_r_o_w_away wrote: post #212

I stopped using Netflix when their catalog went from a rotation of decent movies and TV series to a pile of house produced content that shoves irrelevant content at me. Something about Netflix produced shows seem too crafted by marketing types. It's like a committee comes up with a list of attributes for a show that are just the right amount of woke, edgy, trendy, and demographic evenness. The result is a simulacrum…

Analytics driven content. See also: any mobile game in the last 10 years

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Post by cableshaft »

SomeHacker44 wrote: post #229
cableshaft wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You had to choose those three movies as movies that only seemed great as a teenager? I'd argue they've aged better than a lot of movies from that time period and I'm pretty sure I don't hold the minority opinion there. Hell, I got tired of adults making nonstop jokes and references to watching Die Hard as a Christmas movie on Facebook just a month ago. Here's what I would consider a better list: https://screenrant.co…

Wait, Die Hard isn't a Christmas movie?? We watched it with our college age kids over the break as one. Sure seemed like a perfect Christmas movie to me, even redeeming a rocky marriage at the end.

I agree that it is, I just got tired of seeing two dozen plus facebook posts about it last month.

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Post by listenallyall »

ghaff wrote: post #143
fairity wrote: post #115

Why doesn’t Netflix explore adding ads to their viewing experience? Yes, I wouldn’t like ads, but cable’s revenue model is subscription plus ads, so I’m curious why Netflix thinks their optimal revenue model would be any different?

Not in general the premium channels. What percentage of Netflix users would drop them if they started running adds? 25%? 50%?

More like 5% or less. People are used to commercials. I like having short 30-60 second breaks when watching Amazon Prime content, gives me a chance to check my phone or get a drink. Sure, if they went to multiple 4 minute breaks per hour like broadcast tv, that would be too much. But short breaks will not turn off many subscribers.

HN has a small subset of individuals who are extremely vocal about being ad-free... like many things, they may be vocal but represent a very small group.

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Post by cableshaft »

newsbinator wrote: post #236
cableshaft wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You had to choose those three movies as movies that only seemed great as a teenager? I'd argue they've aged better than a lot of movies from that time period and I'm pretty sure I don't hold the minority opinion there. Hell, I got tired of adults making nonstop jokes and references to watching Die Hard as a Christmas movie on Facebook just a month ago. Here's what I would consider a better list: https://screenrant.co…

Of those 20 bad movies, the majority are the fun-to-watch kind. Even the descriptions in the post grudgingly admit that many of these bad movies 1) did well at the box office and 2) developed a cult following: > Cobra failed with critics and was a disappointment. It's one of the worst movies of the 80s. However, turns out the fans loved it. It soon gained a massive cult following. It follows a basic action movie form…

I think I agree with you, in fact it gave me a few movies I hadn't seen that are now on my to-watch list (and a couple to rewatch, like Tango & Cash). But at least it's a better list of action movies that haven't aged as well than Terminator 2, Robocop, and Die Hard.
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