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Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by bin_bash »

samwillis wrote: post #35
discardable_dan wrote: post #2

I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

While I don't entirely agree with you I do think the price of Netflix is getting a little higher than the value we personally get out of it. Our personal breakdown this year (in the UK): Adults in the house, we are quite picky but if we love it then we will keep watching: Netflix @£9.99: 2 tv shows, 4-5 films Apple TV+ @£4.99: 3 tv shows, 2 films Disney Plus @£7.99: 1 tv show, Loads of movies Amazon Prime @£7.99: 3 t…

Netflix has by far the easiest to use download feature (for Amazon Fire). As long as that's the case I'll be a subscriber so my daughter has something to watch when flying.

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Post by SllX »

redm wrote: post #160
samwillis wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I don't entirely agree with you I do think the price of Netflix is getting a little higher than the value we personally get out of it. Our personal breakdown this year (in the UK): Adults in the house, we are quite picky but if we love it then we will keep watching: Netflix @£9.99: 2 tv shows, 4-5 films Apple TV+ @£4.99: 3 tv shows, 2 films Disney Plus @£7.99: 1 tv show, Loads of movies Amazon Prime @£7.99: 3 t…

I'm surprised YouTube isn't on your list. We having streaming services, but my kids mostly watch YouTube.

In previous threads I’ve asked about the same thing and some parents have very strong opinions about what’s available on YouTube.

I remember one thread in particular where someone told me that you could find some very strange stuff just by typing a period in the search box (autocomplete does the rest, NSFW if that’s not obvious), and that school age Kids tend to figure this out or share this “trick” amongst themselves. So to each their own, but I’m not a parent yet so I abstain from having any strong opinions for the moment.

Re: Netflix’s Prices Are Rising Faster Than Cable

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Post by fluidcruft »

hhmc wrote: post #150
samwillis wrote: post #106

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Our kids love Snoopy. To quote my wife though “I would pay for Apple TV+ just for Ted Lasso”. That says allot about how people look at these services. Apple are treating their tv service the way they do their whole product range, small number of products but done very well.

Although, if you're interested in one offering on a service, you really only need to be actively subscribed for 1-2 months a year (to watch the newest season)?

I think that's a major challenge here and it will ultimately drive up the costs for everyone.

Subscribe for 6 months = 50% annual discount

Subscribe for 4 months = 67% annual discount

Subscribe for 2 months = 83% annual discount

etc. And that looks great!

But producing the content costs the same regardless. So as more people do this, a vicious cycle will set in. Prices must increase to cover production costs with shorter subscription periods. Rising prices cause more people to shift to cycling through shorter subscriptions. Which further drives prices higher.

Basically you end up with the a la carte cable nightmare where you pay the same amount to for access to only one channel at a time. The only real way to stop this is to switch to longer term discounts and early termination fees or bundles.

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Post by samwillis »

redm wrote: post #160
samwillis wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I don't entirely agree with you I do think the price of Netflix is getting a little higher than the value we personally get out of it. Our personal breakdown this year (in the UK): Adults in the house, we are quite picky but if we love it then we will keep watching: Netflix @£9.99: 2 tv shows, 4-5 films Apple TV+ @£4.99: 3 tv shows, 2 films Disney Plus @£7.99: 1 tv show, Loads of movies Amazon Prime @£7.99: 3 t…

I'm surprised YouTube isn't on your list. We having streaming services, but my kids mostly watch YouTube.

Absolutely no YouTube for our kids, just don’t trust it, not even their kids app. Too many stories of bad content.

Here in the uk we have the joy that is CBeebies and CBBC, so have iPlayer (and all the other kids BBC apps) on iPads for the kids.

The only other one we let them have free reign on is Disney+, I’m sure this will change for the older one soon.

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Post by JKCalhoun »

mbg721 wrote: post #126
JKCalhoun wrote: post #79

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Ha ha, I'm a bit like you but I instead scour YouTube for even older shows like "Route 66" or the old "You Bet Your Life".

Interestingly, "You Bet Your Life" highlighted the fact that Groucho Marx got old, and it's weird in kind of the same way that Elvis getting old is weird.

Interesting in other social ways as well — Groucho was allowed to (literally) "cat-call" the attractive female guests on his show.

I suppose there was a sieve that their guests went through but it is still fascinating to see the parade of suburban Los-angelites: housewives, people with strong ethnic ties to the "old country" that had yet to be melted into the pot that was 1950's America. Who knew door to door salesman really was a typical working class occupation?

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Post by Semaphor »

jitix wrote: post #109
stathibus wrote: post #71

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Where I come from, engineers are there to build things that make the product better.

I think Netflix's product is not software but content. I understand what you're referring to but if Prime Video's UX is any indication, content trumps software product quality in this market segment. If I were Netflix I'd probably divest the technology side of the business (which is arguably the best in the market) and sell that "software product" as a white label streaming platform to the myriad of media houses acro…

> I understand what you're referring to but if Prime Video's UX is any indication, content trumps software product quality in this market segment.

Netflix consistently made their UX worse, they started far beyond Prime Video, nowadays, it’s a tossup. I canceled Netflix for that reason alone.

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Post by flerchin »

rchaud wrote: post #154
francisofascii wrote: post #96

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As long as cancelling remains easy, I will continue being a subscriber.

Bit of a Schrodinger's cat situation isn't it? If it became difficult to unsubscribe, you would only find out when you attempted to do it, not at any time before.

I unsubscribe immediately after subscribing. If someone in my household notices the lapsed subscription after a month, only then do I resub. We're usually, but not always, subbed to Netflix.

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Post by dec0dedab0de »

discardable_dan wrote: post #2

I said this again recently, but it's worth repeating: Netflix is on the very fast downward slope. Their catalog is wilting, the space is heating up with well-established competitors moving in and serving the precise content that Netflix originally built their brand on, and their efforts to fund a new catalog with new IP (and taking ownership of old IP) is destroying the business model that made them so appealing in t…

I think Netflix is worth it for the comedy specials alone. Which was the only reason I ever got HBO back in the day. The original shows I watch are just icing on the cake. I think they would have more mindhsare if they released episodes weekly like Disney+ it's easy to forget how much you like a show when you only watch it one day a year.

Now I have HBO for south park and then my family got into some of the DC shows. I'm cancelling after this season. Then turning it back on when Titans or young justice comes back.

I want to make a script that suspends all my subscriptions every day, or cancels every month if youre not allowed to suspend. Then automatically signs me back up when I want to watch something. The main problem is you would need a reliable way to see every service's catalog without an active account.

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Post by mbg721 »

indigochill wrote: post #168
qudat wrote: post #113

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Once The Office, Parks and Rec, and 30 Rock were removed from Netflix I haven't needed to resub since. The only sub I permanently keep is YoutubePremium.

At least two of those three went to Peacock (NBC's Netflix-like), though, right (maybe all three, I never followed Parks and Rec)? I imagine they'll be looking for a new home soon enough.

After GE bought NBC, David Letterman joked that staff were encouraged to use Sylvania fluorescent bulbs as lightsabers. The top brass had little sense of humor then, and now that the studios own everything, I'm guessing much less now.

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Post by doubled112 »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #121
lucasyvas wrote: post #9

I can't believe they increased the price of the top tier as well. It was already expensive and IMO the lower tiers are useless - it's the illusion of choice.

Most of their content isn't 4k. IMO the top tier is useless.

This was the conclusion I came to and downgraded last price increase.

I didn't need the simultaneous devices, so that wasn't a selling point.

Would I rather watch 4K content on my 4k TV? Probably, but I really don't feel like I'm missing out without it.

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