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Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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Since it is an auction, besides the winning bidder, there was at least another bidder, which makes two of them and is even more perplexing. It is not really the "Dune" book, but rather its storyboard, more details and a few photos here: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211122-doomed-dune-s...

Sounds like a great way to launder money

You know what's even than laundering money by bidding ridiculously high on an auction for something you're selling? Being overbid by idiots.

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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I made the mistake of diving a bit deeper into the group who bought it and found a proposal where they are talking about literally burning the book they just bought after digitizing it for … reasons I guess [0] At this point I just hope its some sort of practical joke or whatever because this just seems a bit much. [0] https://forum.spicedao.xyz/t/nft-of-the-book-w-proof-of-jpeg...

Fuck me, they’re talking about using JPEG as an archival format before destroying the original. What is going on here.

> Because the book remains on-chain, the book does not die, but crosses the boundary of physical to digital.

It reminds me of the video game SOMA, where people upload a brain-scan of themselves to live on after some catastrophe, essentially making a digital copy of their consciousness. But because they are also still physically alive, they see the digital version of themselves as a clone, someone else. To "complete the transition", they decide they must end their lives at the exact moment the scan is complete.

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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It feels a bit weird to me to heavily mock and ridicule someone who thought they were doing something for public good.

didn't they initially intend to burn the book to make their NFT (or whatever kind of token) more valuable? If that's true, then they deserve to be ridiculed and more.

I have no idea. I'm only going by the information in this post.

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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My favorite part of this story is that they DAO has actually raised ~$8m, spent $3m on the book (10x the expected auction price), then the "core team" has started paying themselves ~$30k a month[0]. Also, how is this "decentralised" when one person owns over 50% of the voting token? [0] https://snapshot.org/#/dunedao.eth/proposal/0x2038fc240d0e85...

The word you're looking for is Scam.

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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I made the mistake of diving a bit deeper into the group who bought it and found a proposal where they are talking about literally burning the book they just bought after digitizing it for … reasons I guess [0] At this point I just hope its some sort of practical joke or whatever because this just seems a bit much. [0] https://forum.spicedao.xyz/t/nft-of-the-book-w-proof-of-jpeg...

What happens if you upload copyright protected data in cleartext on a blockchain without having the distribution rights?

You don't need to guess - someone is holding that copyright right now.

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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I made the mistake of diving a bit deeper into the group who bought it and found a proposal where they are talking about literally burning the book they just bought after digitizing it for … reasons I guess [0] At this point I just hope its some sort of practical joke or whatever because this just seems a bit much. [0] https://forum.spicedao.xyz/t/nft-of-the-book-w-proof-of-jpeg...

That's pretty insane.

Oddly enough - the process in a library for digitising a copy of a book can be fairly destructive, as far as I understood from those doing it (at CUDL). The spine is chopped off, to make it easier to put it into a machine for scanning all the pages.

The digital images can (should?) then be stored in a format that allows zooming, for example : https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/MS-ADD-03967/1

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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post #55

It feels a bit weird to me to heavily mock and ridicule someone who thought they were doing something for public good.

How is buying a book, converting it into NFTs and then burning it a public good?

Where does it say anything about burning books? I'm referring to the bit about making it public and supporting derivative works.

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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They bought a rare Dune storybook, created by an all-star team of artists (Jodorowsky, Moebius, HR Giger, ...). I think that storybook was used to pitch the concept art to Movie Producers and Studios. To make this easier to understand, substitute "Dune book" with "Gutenberg Bible" or, even better, "historic, ultrarare, pre-medieval parchment of a Bible translation". The new owners of that Bible probably do not think…

If so, why would they think they now have the right to make an animated series based on the IP (which their tweet explicitly states)? You’re being way too charitable.

And as the sibling comment said, this is not the only copy (but seeing elsewhere in the thread that they’ve talked about burning it, perhaps they thought so, too. That’s honestly not an impressive amount of due diligence in that case, to put it mildly).

Re: €2.6M spent for a book at auction, believed they would own the IP

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I made the mistake of diving a bit deeper into the group who bought it and found a proposal where they are talking about literally burning the book they just bought after digitizing it for … reasons I guess [0] At this point I just hope its some sort of practical joke or whatever because this just seems a bit much. [0] https://forum.spicedao.xyz/t/nft-of-the-book-w-proof-of-jpeg...

Let’s suspend disbelief for a moment and pretend everything worked as they say, in what world is giving access to the book to the few people that pay for the nft, “democratising”?
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