Ask HN: New YouTube hover feature? Does anyone else find this annoying? • Hacker News Board

Re: Ask HN: New YouTube hover feature? Does anyone else find this annoying?

#41

Post by epistasis » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:42 AM UTC

DavidGetchel wrote: post #35

For me, the autoplay was there and fine. The growing big is new, annoying and similar to Amazon/Netflix. There was no need to change it.

This has severely limited my usage of Netflix. I'm pretty close to cancelling it.

Re: Ask HN: New YouTube hover feature? Does anyone else find this annoying?

#42

Post by 37 » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:43 AM UTC

anon_123g987 wrote: post #39

Alternative to YouTube (same content, better UX/UI/frontend): https://invidious.io/ https://yewtu.be/

Thanks! I appreciate this!

Does it use the same recommendation algorithm? I don't have a YouTube account but (sadly) do still watch a lot of the recommended videos

Re: Ask HN: New YouTube hover feature? Does anyone else find this annoying?

#43

Post by kiwijamo » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:43 AM UTC

tyingq wrote: post #34

ksec wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Just turn it off lol Not an option on my account.

Same. No such option.

Shows for me next to 'Browsing' (the last option/section).

Re: Ask HN: New YouTube hover feature? Does anyone else find this annoying?

#44

Post by akersten » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:43 AM UTC

cercatrova wrote: post #40

I quite like it, after having seen it in the, ahem, adult spaces . But seriously though, it's a good enough feature for just checking out whether a video is interesting enough to watch or whether the title and thumbnail are just clickbait, which they often are for making the creators money. It saves me a click or new tab which is even more annoying than hovering over a video.

> I quite like it, after having seen it in the, ahem, adult spaces.

Those of us old enough to have witnessed the early days of YouTube remember that their previous video-preview-on-hover feature was also lifted directly from those same adult spaces :)

Re: Ask HN: New YouTube hover feature? Does anyone else find this annoying?

#45

Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:45 AM UTC

"Does anyone else find this annoying as hell?"

I find it annoying that an unpleasant user experience is generally viewed solely as a problem of the particular website and not a problem of the software available to access websites. For example, the user cannot simply switch to a browser that only supports a subset of the HTML protocol, e.g., one that does not support autoplay. Instead users must expend energy to try to modify the default behaviour of the browser or add functionality that does not exist. Here, the website operator is also a browser vendor. I find that troublesome. To avoid the repercussions, I do not use a browser to interact with YouTube. I do not use an app either.

Re: Ask HN: New YouTube hover feature? Does anyone else find this annoying?

#46

Post by 37 » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:45 AM UTC

todorov84 wrote: post #16

I've blocked these popups and the suggestions overlay at the end of videos by using these rules: www.youtube.com##.ytd-thumbnail-overlay-loading-preview-renderer www.youtube.com##.ytd-video-preview www.youtube.com##.ytp-ce-covering-overlay www.youtube.com##.ytp-ce-element www.youtube.com##.ytp-cards www.youtube.com##.ytp-cards-teaser www.youtube.com##.ytp-cards-button-icon

Thanks! Where are you applying these rules? uBlock Origin? or will this just work with any adblocker type thing?

Re: Ask HN: New YouTube hover feature? Does anyone else find this annoying?

#47

Post by 37 » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:46 AM UTC

akomtu wrote: post #23

This is "growth inwards": when a business unit can't keep growing outwards, it turns to this pathological mode where it squeezes out all value from its users and reputation. In practice, the corporate peons must find new ways to extract this value, regardless of whether it hurts the org in the long run.

The bottom line must grow every quarter, or the shareholders will not be happy!

(edit: I hate it!)

Re: Ask HN: New YouTube hover feature? Does anyone else find this annoying?

#48

Post by krono » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:47 AM UTC

You can disable it with the "inline playback" toggle here: https://www.youtube.com/account_playback

If you don't happen to be in some or other test group, that is. No guarantees :)

Absolutely maddening that feature.

Re: Ask HN: New YouTube hover feature? Does anyone else find this annoying?

#49

Post by eatbitseveryday » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:47 AM UTC

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #45

"Does anyone else find this annoying as hell?" I find it annoying that an unpleasant user experience is generally viewed solely as a problem of the particular website and not a problem of the software available to access websites. For example, the user cannot simply switch to a browser that only supports a subset of the HTML protocol, e.g., one that does not support autoplay. Instead users must expend energy to try t…

> I do not use a browser to interact with YouTube.

… so you use command line?

Re: Ask HN: New YouTube hover feature? Does anyone else find this annoying?

#50

Post by cercatrova » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 4:48 AM UTC

akersten wrote: post #44

cercatrova wrote: post #40

I quite like it, after having seen it in the, ahem, adult spaces . But seriously though, it's a good enough feature for just checking out whether a video is interesting enough to watch or whether the title and thumbnail are just clickbait, which they often are for making the creators money. It saves me a click or new tab which is even more annoying than hovering over a video.

> I quite like it, after having seen it in the, ahem, adult spaces. Those of us old enough to have witnessed the early days of YouTube remember that their previous video-preview-on-hover feature was also lifted directly from those same adult spaces :)

Indeed, many such technologies have arisen from adult spaces: https://www.businessinsider.com/porn-behind-internet-technol...