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Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

Dig1t wrote: post #84

It's pretty cool that this one person wrote a piece of software that has been used by so many people, it's crazy to think of that impact. I personally find it difficult to get excited or interested in the technical intricacies of a closed source piece of software put out by a megacorp though, unless I'm getting paid for it I'd way rather learn about the technical details of open source counterparts and the systems th…

This reminds me of all those 80s arcade and Atari/Commodore/Coleco games written almost always by a single person. To think these really iconic experiences were done by someone from start to finish (sounds, graphics, gameplay, idea, execution, debug, etc) as a solo project always seemed a little bizarre to me. Of course those were simpler games but just the creativity plus the know-how is impressive.

I also dont think they had ownership of any of this either. They were paid salary and maybe a small cut of sales. It always seemed like a bad deal considering this was a single creators's project.

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Post by edmundsauto »

kqr wrote: post #55
Jcowell wrote: post #21

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Is there a name for a process like this? Very interesting approach I want to take with future software.

Good engineering? An engineer worth their salt should always, in my opinion, contrast resource demand with resource supply and scale down the complexity of the workload in the face of a resource shortage.

Only if this trade off is important enough to dedicate time to it. Good engineering is the balancing of trade offs, including the available amount of time.

A term lie craftsman engineering might be appropriate - someone who goes over and above the requirements because they can afford the time necessary to fulfill their personal aesthetic.

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Post by userbinator »

eps wrote: post #88

> visually complicated app to ever be fully resizable in all dimensions without any flicker This is still ridiculously hard to do on Windows if using standard controls as a filler. Especially when resizing by the top or left edge. The only trick I know is to attach D3D context to the window, but even that has edge cases that look even more jarring than regular flickering.

WS_CLIPCHILDREN? I haven't had problems with using that to eliminate flicker. When drawing using GDI, double-buffering also works.

(Long-time Win32 developer here.)

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Post by schmorptron »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #52
qsdf38100 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sysinternal process explorer is the ultimate taskmgr for Windows, for example you can see the threads for each process, and even their call stacks! When a file can’t be deleted because it’s open in a process but you can’t find which one, you can even search into memory for all processes and find the culprit in 3 seconds. Or see what files / reg keys a process has currently open and even force-close them… give it a tr…

>Sysinternal process explorer is the ultimate taskmgr for Windows The whole Sysinternals Process Utilities[1] is a goldmine worth bookmarking for any windows power user, and the quality of the tools is great. The only thing I don't understand is why they aren't shipped by default with every windows installation. They're so useful and no bloat, it boggles my mind why they're not there by default. [1] https://docs.micr…

Maybe it's something to do with not having to provide support or warranty for additional, free downloads?

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Post by jborean93 »

qsdf38100 wrote: post #42
est wrote: post #3

I miss taskmgr so much on Linux/macOS. Everything in taskmgr feels so logical and manageable without extra steps.

Sysinternal process explorer is the ultimate taskmgr for Windows, for example you can see the threads for each process, and even their call stacks! When a file can’t be deleted because it’s open in a process but you can’t find which one, you can even search into memory for all processes and find the culprit in 3 seconds. Or see what files / reg keys a process has currently open and even force-close them… give it a tr…

While procexp is great I personally prefer Process Hacker. One of the killer features for me is the more in depth handle lists as well as showing specific information for handle types and their security descriptors which I find pretty invaluable. Don't get me wrong both tools are great just wanting to share another one :)

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Post by jborean93 »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #52
qsdf38100 wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sysinternal process explorer is the ultimate taskmgr for Windows, for example you can see the threads for each process, and even their call stacks! When a file can’t be deleted because it’s open in a process but you can’t find which one, you can even search into memory for all processes and find the culprit in 3 seconds. Or see what files / reg keys a process has currently open and even force-close them… give it a tr…

>Sysinternal process explorer is the ultimate taskmgr for Windows The whole Sysinternals Process Utilities[1] is a goldmine worth bookmarking for any windows power user, and the quality of the tools is great. The only thing I don't understand is why they aren't shipped by default with every windows installation. They're so useful and no bloat, it boggles my mind why they're not there by default. [1] https://docs.micr…

> The only thing I don't understand is why they aren't shipped by default with every windows installation

At a guess it would mean they would have to support the suite at that version for the lifespan of the OS. Having it separate allows them to update independently and not get tied down 10 years down the line with still having to support and old code base.

This is one of the biggest reasons why pwsh (PowerShell 6+) still hasn't been included in box. There is no .NET version that is supported for the time that is required by Windows and thus cannot be included in box.

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Post by jjoonathan »

myfonj wrote: post #87

My favourite part of Task Manager lore are nearly undocumented keyboard shortcuts: - pause updates by holding CTRL pressed, - hit F5 for refresh (standard binding, isn't it?), or hold F5 to get refreshes way more frequent than with View > Update Speed > High. They might have been visible in menu mnemonics in past versions (?), or might have been mentioned in the help, but now, while still working, there is no clear w…

Is there a way to get Task Manager to kill a fullscreen app without navigating a bunch of menus behind the frozen full screen?

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Post by jjoonathan »

snazz wrote: post #71
marcellus23 wrote: post #66

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Activity Monitor (the macOS one) definitely has right-click.

Right clicking on a process in the list does not bring up a context menu in Activity Monitor on my Mac.

Doubleclick brings up a window. It even has a "sample" option so you can peek at the stack!

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Post by RobertMiller »

YXNjaGVyZWdlbgo wrote: post #79
jjulius wrote: post #78

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You're calling them a liar, a "bad actor" (implying ill intent), suggesting they're "talking shit", etc. That's a lot of strong rhetoric to throw at someone's character over such an innocuous comment that hardly anybody is ever going to see, just because they are wrong about something (which, let's be honest, is relatively no big deal to be wrong about). I really hope you have a good day.

Give me one reason why a technical verse person that acts in good faith would write a comment like that, just one.

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