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Why isn't there a universal data format for résumés?

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Re: Why isn't there a universal data format for résumés?

#51
If you really want a job at my company, and the level at which you decide "this isn't worth my time" is 2 minutes to enter your details then you weren't a good fit in the first place. There are genuine reasons to turn down stupid requests in interview (ridiculous coding tests) but "Re-enter all your details into this form" isn't that hard, and if you really think you want the job then it's a very small price to pay. What is does is force unqualified candidates to distill their lack of qualifications. So for the hiring company it let's them cut out that bottom 50% of applications (not candidates, applications) that are just absurd. If you standardize it all you're doing is giving the mass-application candidates a cheat sheet.

Re: Why isn't there a universal data format for résumés?

#53

In my opinion, there shouldn't be. Documents like these shouldn't be automatically processed, they should be reviewed by humans. Reducing someone's life history to a list of educational institutions and employers feels robotic even for a software developer's mindset. I understand that there are real life problems because companies do use automated processing on applications, but that kind of behaviour shouldn't be en…

Also having this it will give you the User to make 1 resume and apply to millions of jobs. It’s a win / win situation

Unless you’re the employer being deluged

Re: Why isn't there a universal data format for résumés?

#54
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There is, thanks to the semantic web (the real web 3 :) ). See for example the FoaF ontology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOAF_(ontology)

Is the “semantic web” used in sensible, productive ways these days or does it remain an academic daydream? I’m highly skeptical of the whole concept and feel like I should have organically come across it by now.

There is some neat application for example many tickets/hotel reservation/restaurant do include them and this allow to make some email clients displays these tickets in a standard way.

KDE Itinerary and Apple Wallet make use of this. For the KDE Itinerary part, you can read more on this here: https://volkerkrause.eu/ (look at the KDE Itinerary posts)

Re: Why isn't there a universal data format for résumés?

#55
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Europass. Personally, I'm not a fan precisely because it only shows raw info and doesn't leave anything for interpretation - it's cold and bureaucratic. But I understand why people love to us it. Around half of the CVs I see (in Europe) are in this format.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europass

Re: Why isn't there a universal data format for résumés?

#56

In my opinion, there shouldn't be. Documents like these shouldn't be automatically processed, they should be reviewed by humans. Reducing someone's life history to a list of educational institutions and employers feels robotic even for a software developer's mindset. I understand that there are real life problems because companies do use automated processing on applications, but that kind of behaviour shouldn't be en…

Also having this it will give you the User to make 1 resume and apply to millions of jobs. It’s a win / win situation

There is maybe 1 in 50 jobs that I'd actually want, so I imagine bulk applying to would guarantee I land something awful.

Re: Why isn't there a universal data format for résumés?

#57
It’s because the function of a resume is largely social signaling, not a matter-of-fact reporting of career history. You can’t make a data format to encode that information, which is why a lot of job platforms require a resume and a list of your past jobs in a form.

Any solution for resumes is going to fall into the much harder category of social change, rather than technical solutions.

Re: Why isn't there a universal data format for résumés?

#58
I think that would be very cool. Coupled with a universal data-format for jobs, one could imagine a much better job match engine that doesn't rely on the right person finding the right job!

Like a job market that matches employees to employers but in an open database. I can't think of an easy way to monetize it in an open data sense, sadly, but it seems like everyone would benefit from it and so you could charge a small fee and kill recruiters if your job match engine was good.

The market being so lucrative, I imagine that someone has already tried it and the devil is in the details. Perhaps if I cared more about this and didn't have a great network, I might give it a shot. Could bootstrap off Github profiles or something, and be tech focused to start with.

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