ugh, relay is a service i enjoy and pay for
Mozilla's Firefox Relay to be added to disposable-email-domains blacklist
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#32I wish Google would start offering disposable relay emails that were indistinguishable from their regular ones, since nobody could afford to block all of @gmail.com.
I have encountered services that block gmail and instead demand work emails.
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#33The reason disposable email addresses exist and are popular is because services have abused users' trust to not use these emails for shady ad revenue and marketing schemes. It's further compounded by shoddy security that leads to leaks and exposure of people's personal email addresses to pwned compromised lists. People don't want to give up their personal email addresses so that they can be spammed or hacked. Until s…
I’m the founder of a small bootstrapped SAAS and people use disposable email addresses all the time to avoid paying for our product. We don’t sell any data.
Is it worth the hassle to have a free tier? Is it a good enough funnel to the paid tiers?
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> people use disposable email addresses all the time to avoid paying for our product. From the prospective subscriber’s perspective, that’s your problem to worry about — not theirs. > We don’t sell any data. How should users know that? It’s also not just a matter of selling data — almost all companies will spam your email address, even if you check the box asking them not to.
>From the prospective subscriber’s perspective, that’s your problem to worry about — not theirs. exactly...which is why there are blacklists like the one linked in the OP.
… which makes it the prospective subscriber’s problem, pushing nearly all risk onto them, and requiring them to trust that the service won’t spam them or sell their e-mail address.
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#35The reason disposable email addresses exist and are popular is because services have abused users' trust to not use these emails for shady ad revenue and marketing schemes. It's further compounded by shoddy security that leads to leaks and exposure of people's personal email addresses to pwned compromised lists. People don't want to give up their personal email addresses so that they can be spammed or hacked. Until s…
I’m the founder of a small bootstrapped SAAS and people use disposable email addresses all the time to avoid paying for our product. We don’t sell any data.
And that's fair enough but this is just another thing that businesses have to chalk up to as a cost of business because users' privacy is more important than your dollars.
I have sympathy for businesses out to make a buck: they are the reason I get to put food on my table. But on the scale of balance between users' rights and business rights over the last twenty years, it's no contest: business rights reign triumphant.
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#36I wish Google would start offering disposable relay emails that were indistinguishable from their regular ones, since nobody could afford to block all of @gmail.com.
Fastmail offers disposable email addresses (Masked Email addresses) on its fastmail.com domain:
https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/4406536368911-Ma...
Fastmail does have undisclosed limits, however:
> If you're having trouble creating new Masked Email addresses, please note that we have limits on how many new Masked Email addresses can be created within a certain amount of time to prevent abuse.
It would be good to see other email services offer a similar feature.
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#37This is genuinely concerning to me. The www and various systems, such as email, should be agnostic to whomever I am providing my details to. If I purchase a new SIM I expect a number where I can make outbound calls, receive inbound calls and use data without worrying about any "lists".
Email should work in a similar fashion but as we know it doesn't, and there are various systems in place such that it's a game of roulette if your email reaches its intended target, and worse of all to me it's opaque, there's no way to know how likely it is or the various processes that may prevent my email being received by the other party.
And for systems that are critical for communication we should not allow them to be put in any type of "allow"/"deny" boxes and no domain should be either trusted or untrusted, after all Gmail can be a huge source of spam, but it seems those who provide users control and privacy are considered an adversary which is really sad.
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#38The reason disposable email addresses exist and are popular is because services have abused users' trust to not use these emails for shady ad revenue and marketing schemes. It's further compounded by shoddy security that leads to leaks and exposure of people's personal email addresses to pwned compromised lists. People don't want to give up their personal email addresses so that they can be spammed or hacked. Until s…
I’m the founder of a small bootstrapped SAAS and people use disposable email addresses all the time to avoid paying for our product. We don’t sell any data.
But why would having a "valid" email address help you more getting payment?
At most you may send reminders, but even then, those may end up in a spambox?
Even once you've verified the email, you have not much of a guarantee it will stay verified/working long. That's more the subscriber's problem, if they want to continue to use your product.
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#39This is disappointing as I have really been enjoying using Firefox Relay to cut down on the email spam I receive. It looks like they are even planning on blacklisting the "custom" @personaldomain.mozmail.com domains that come with paid accounts.
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#40Is iCloud's "Hide My E-mail" on the list too?
I think as long as it's just INCOMING email, what's the harm in it?