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I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Apologies for attacking Dave's credibility on an unrelated thread, but his comments on Linux are absolutely falsehoods. He said that all Linux machines have some sort of proprietary blob Linus Torvalds put in there on EVERY release, for his own purposes. Compared to Windows, which is entirely closed source.. I just blocked his channel after that. https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/rb2xzk/dave_plummer_... Related…

I wonder whether he actually believes these things, or Microsoft convinced him to knowingly lie about them.

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a name for a process like this? Very interesting approach I want to take with future software.

Good engineering? An engineer worth their salt should always, in my opinion, contrast resource demand with resource supply and scale down the complexity of the workload in the face of a resource shortage.

That sounds perhaps too broad of a claim. Good engineering is to balance the needs of customers against the available time and cost of development, right? Scaling an app for low resource situations takes a lot of effort, often would result in a degraded experience and/or functionality, and plenty of apps don’t have any customer demand for such fallbacks, which is why plenty of good engineers and teams consciously choose not to spend their engineering budget this way. The Task Manager, being integrated into the OS and especially critical in low resource situations, has an incredibly strong argument here to work in low resource situations. Tons of user-space apps don’t make sense to scale at all, if memory is low or cpu is high from other apps, then it’s outside the bounds of the app to worry about. You would agree that not all engineering should be resilient to any and all conditions, and that it’s okay to design something that requires certain resources to be available from the start, wouldn’t you?

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

#63

Apologies for attacking Dave's credibility on an unrelated thread, but his comments on Linux are absolutely falsehoods. He said that all Linux machines have some sort of proprietary blob Linus Torvalds put in there on EVERY release, for his own purposes. Compared to Windows, which is entirely closed source.. I just blocked his channel after that. https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/rb2xzk/dave_plummer_... Related…

> Not to attack Dave's credibility on an unrelated thread

Isn't that exactly what you're doing? Not saying you shouldn't; 'anything this person says should be taken with a grain of salt, or perhaps even suspicion' with reason seems like a fine point to make.

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

#64

Apologies for attacking Dave's credibility on an unrelated thread, but his comments on Linux are absolutely falsehoods. He said that all Linux machines have some sort of proprietary blob Linus Torvalds put in there on EVERY release, for his own purposes. Compared to Windows, which is entirely closed source.. I just blocked his channel after that. https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/rb2xzk/dave_plummer_... Related…

he does a load of performance tests too

between bare metal Windows and Linux running under a Microsoft VMM

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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post #63

Apologies for attacking Dave's credibility on an unrelated thread, but his comments on Linux are absolutely falsehoods. He said that all Linux machines have some sort of proprietary blob Linus Torvalds put in there on EVERY release, for his own purposes. Compared to Windows, which is entirely closed source.. I just blocked his channel after that. https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/rb2xzk/dave_plummer_... Related…

> Not to attack Dave's credibility on an unrelated thread Isn't that exactly what you're doing? Not saying you shouldn't; 'anything this person says should be taken with a grain of salt, or perhaps even suspicion' with reason seems like a fine point to make.

Good point, I sort of meant "apologies for attacking his credibility on an unrelated thread". Fixed

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you like about task manager compared to e.g. Activity Monitor? Activity Monitor has always seemed powerful and well-designed to me.

Lack of right click in activity monitor really frustrates me, especially since I'm more likely to be irritated already when I have to open it.

Activity Monitor (the macOS one) definitely has right-click.

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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> Task Manager will load in reduced mode if resources are short, like only loading the Processes page if that's what's needed to get going. It's one of the very few apps that won't just "fail and bail" when things go wrong. This has saved me a few times, but every time I've seen it I always figured task manager was just failing to completely load. Glad to know that this was a deliberate state.

Is there a name for a process like this? Very interesting approach I want to take with future software.

I like to call it the "oxygen mask". Keeps you conscious while you diagnose a potentially fatal problem

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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I miss taskmgr so much on Linux/macOS. Everything in taskmgr feels so logical and manageable without extra steps.

XFCE has taskmanager. goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/xfce4-taskmanager

I like the MATE System Monitor even more. On Xubuntu it's simply:

  sudo apt install mate-system-monitor
https://wiki.mate-desktop.org/mate-desktop/applications/mate...

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

#69

Apologies for attacking Dave's credibility on an unrelated thread, but his comments on Linux are absolutely falsehoods. He said that all Linux machines have some sort of proprietary blob Linus Torvalds put in there on EVERY release, for his own purposes. Compared to Windows, which is entirely closed source.. I just blocked his channel after that. https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/rb2xzk/dave_plummer_... Related…

I wonder whether he actually believes these things, or Microsoft convinced him to knowingly lie about them.

>Microsoft convinced him to knowingly lie about them

He hasn't been employed by Microsoft in a really long time.

Re: I wrote Task Manager and I just remembered something (2020)

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I miss taskmgr so much on Linux/macOS. Everything in taskmgr feels so logical and manageable without extra steps.

I feel the complete opposite, interestingly enough. Apple process viewer and htop are what I want.

For some insane reason though, Apples Activity Monitor can’t sort processes by the current amount of disk activity, only some nebulous ‘energy usage’ value or lifetime disk activity.
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