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Re: Cheezam – Shazam for Cheese

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UK produces more varieties. Of course it depends what "great cheese" is defined as - naming is a lot looser in the UK - but a cheese DB without UK (and definitely Italy too) is missing a lot.

Sure, but quantity does not equal to quality.

I doubt there are many of those named varieties that anyone would truthfully say are low-quality produce by definition, though. There is just a rich, long history of cheesemaking and a wide variety of different cheeses.

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Funny, I just tried it on a comte and it thought it was gruyere. Still probably a better guess than a lot of people I know would give (Edit, reading below I see others noticed the same thing)

Compté basically is Gruyère: same recipe, same process, same taste profile, just slightly different terroir. ( https://www.thephcheese.com/gruyere-and-comte-two-of-a-kind )

Fair enough, though the reason I posted was because the GP did get cheddar misclassified as comte so it evidently can propose both comte and gruyere as labels. Maybe the taxonomy could be revised to make it respond gruyere/compte if they are really indistinguishable.

Where I am, comte is usually wider than gruyere. If this generally holds, that could be what it uses to distinguish them, and actually I showed it a cut piece so maybe that's why it thought gruyere.

With more time / motivation, it would be interesting to do a study looking at whether size and orientation can change the predicted label. Like if I cut cheddar into a wedge would it think its brie?

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To be fair, Comté and Gruyere are pretty much as similar as 2 different types of cheeses can get.

Oh. No. Really not. Comté is way more flavorful and tangy, and develop quartz of salt than crisp when you eat it.

I've never been so angry because of an HN comment, nom d'une pipe en bois. But cheers from Switzerland anyway, let's enjoy cheese while we still have a sense of taste.

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Oh. No. Really not. Comté is way more flavorful and tangy, and develop quartz of salt than crisp when you eat it.

The crystals are not salt but amino acid, mainly tyrosine.

Also calcium lactate, which is a salt.

Re: Cheezam – Shazam for Cheese

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To be fair, Comté and Gruyere are pretty much as similar as 2 different types of cheeses can get.

visually, maybe. in taste, not at all. Comte and Beaufort maybe, Comte and Gruyere? no way

It's hard to taste a picture! I'm not saying they're exactly the same, but they're made in extremely similar ways.

I'm from a less cheese-y part of Europe, but isn't Comté often called Gruyère de Comté for a reason? Of course they'll taste very different when aged for very different amount of times, but I've found them to be decently similar when aged for similar amounts of time.

Re: Cheezam – Shazam for Cheese

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To be fair, Comté and Gruyere are pretty much as similar as 2 different types of cheeses can get.

Oh. No. Really not. Comté is way more flavorful and tangy, and develop quartz of salt than crisp when you eat it.

The crystals are just from aging it for longer, aren't they? Of course a 36 month Comté vs. 4 month Gruye won't have that many similarities compared to a 12 month Comté vs. 12 month Gruyere.

Re: Cheezam – Shazam for Cheese

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When I'm identifying a cheese I feel like it's 50% sight, 40% smell, 10% feel. It's hard to imagine identifying arbitrary cheeses with just sight. There are so many and a lot of them look extremely similar.

Even distinguishing between Jarlsberg and Swiss seems like it could be a challenge, and that would be easy relative to a lot of others. On top of that if you have something like brie there's a million of them - I don't think I could distinguish brie de nangis from another brie unless I could touch it.

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