This data is really quite poor. It’s adjusted based on a 2000 census. It’s also showing a 2 dose effectiveness of over 70% against Omicron which we know to be under 10%. If you’re using this as an argument to get vaccinated, it’s a bad one.
Covid-19 breakthrough data
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Re: Covid-19 breakthrough data
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which studies?
https://www.ons.gov.uk/news/statementsandletters/coronavirus... "those who have received three doses of a vaccine and test positive for COVID-19 are more likely to be infected with infections compatible with the Omicron variant compared with those who are unvaccinated"
And when was it censored?
I note that it says "It is too early to draw conclusions from our data on the effectiveness of vaccines against the Omicron variant." also.
Does it mean more likely to get infected (given the same exposure) or more likely to be infected? The difference is quite important.
Re: Covid-19 breakthrough data
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know where you are located but here in Switzerland I would definitely want the positive PCR test as proof. Although it may no longer be needed as it looks like this will be over soon the confirmation of an infection is treated here almost like a vaccination. So you will get a certificate extension etc. The isolation time here has been reduced to 5 days with minimum 2 days symptom free.
Here in the US there is no upside to having proof of infection. It doesn't relieve you of needing vaccination or false tests in any situation. Edit: not false tests; true negative tests.
It makes it easier for most cases of international travel. In a lot of contexts if you're vaccinated + boosted + recovered in the last 90 days, you can just travel and not worry about the result of the COVID test you need to return to the United States as long as you have a letter stating recovery.
Re: Covid-19 breakthrough data
#24This data is really quite poor. It’s adjusted based on a 2000 census. It’s also showing a 2 dose effectiveness of over 70% against Omicron which we know to be under 10%. If you’re using this as an argument to get vaccinated, it’s a bad one.
> which we know to be under 10%
Source?
Re: Covid-19 breakthrough data
#25I wonder how under-reported mild breakthrough cases are, due to self testing? I'm fully vaccinated and boosted, and I had what I suspect is Omicron about 10 days ago. I had a mild fever (approaching, but not reaching 101), a sore throat, sneezing and nasal congestion for 3-4 days, and I tested positive with an over the counter rapid test. Overall, it was like a very minor cold. My girlfriend also tested positive, and…
Probably a statistic that they don’t want have in their possession anyhow.
He didn’t go the hospital. That doesn’t change the overwhelmingly positive benefits of “hospitalization rates”.
Re: Covid-19 breakthrough data
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Which studies?
For example, check pages 30, 36 and 42 of the following report from Scotland:
https://publichealthscotland.scot/media/11089/22-01-12-covid...
Re: Covid-19 breakthrough data
#27Interesting that while the odds of the vaccine protecting against infection are near all-time lows (mid 70s), vaccine protection against hospitalization is near all-time highs (mid-90s). Also interesting that this data treats 14-days+ after last shot as fully vaccinated, so presumably two-shot and three-shot people are both treated as “fully vaccinated”. > Fully-vaccinated people may have received additional or boost…
Published effectiveness against Omicron infection is under 10%. This data is simply wrong.
Re: Covid-19 breakthrough data
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here in the US there is no upside to having proof of infection. It doesn't relieve you of needing vaccination or false tests in any situation. Edit: not false tests; true negative tests.
That doesn't make much sense when looking at hospital data. The previously infected have the lowest hospital administrations vs even the vaccinated. If you are double vaxed and get infected it make zero sense to also get a booster unless you have an immune system issue.
It makes sense to not make getting it an incentive. They do well, if they survive. But they also have much larger risk of bad outcomes.
Re: Covid-19 breakthrough data
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here in the US there is no upside to having proof of infection. It doesn't relieve you of needing vaccination or false tests in any situation. Edit: not false tests; true negative tests.
That doesn't make much sense when looking at hospital data. The previously infected have the lowest hospital administrations vs even the vaccinated. If you are double vaxed and get infected it make zero sense to also get a booster unless you have an immune system issue.
That view is not supported by all vaccination researchers. The argument against that line of thought is that your immune response to, say, omicron is very specific toward that variant. Consequently, if you catch omicron, that does not mean you're automatically protected against other variants.
Re: Covid-19 breakthrough data
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which studies?
https://www.ons.gov.uk/news/statementsandletters/coronavirus... "those who have received three doses of a vaccine and test positive for COVID-19 are more likely to be infected with infections compatible with the Omicron variant compared with those who are unvaccinated"
“Note that this is the probability of an infection being Omicron given a person is infected, so it doesn’t tell us how likely a person is to test positive in the first place.”