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Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Having recently moved back to Linux (PopOS) from Windows, the one biggest annoyance is not being able to configure two-finger touchpad swipe to be browser back/forward. This is the default in Mac, easily configurable in Windows (perhaps it's the default?), and default in ChromeOS. But simply not an option in any Linux I've tried. The Epiphany Browser does it, but that lacks extension support so is a no-go for me. Any…

Touchpad gestures for Linux apps are being worked on: - Latest update (December 2021): https://www.gitclear.com/blog/linux_touchpad_update_december... - HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29555822 So far, pinch-to-zoom has been implemented in Firefox. (If you are using X11 instead of Wayland, then the environment variable MOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 needs to be set.) Gestures for back/forward navigation have not been imp…

What I don't quite get is why this needs a project; it just needs configuration options; for example, two-finger swipes currently map to mouse buttons (buttons 6 and 7 for left/right swiping) which most apps interpret as scrolling (in every direction). I'm about to write a script to remap those to browser back and browser forward actions (after a delay to prevent repeated actions), but I'm so surprised it's not baked into the desktop environment.

But thanks for the link, I'll check it out

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

Lol. I came here to say the only thing that matters is that copy and paste in Linux is 'cntrl+shift+c'. You can try changing it, but your still fucked in most terminals, and then you end up with two key combos depending on context. It's a nightmare, and I'm really glad you have the top comment. Clearly I'm not alone.

Why don't we have dedicated "Copy" and "Paste" keys yet? I hate typing Ctrl+Key all the time.

Put them in the place of "Scroll Lock" and "Pause/Break" or "SysRq".

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

https://github.com/rbreaves/kinto comes close for keyboard shortcuts

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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yup yup yup. i would pack my bags from Mac land and move to that distro right away. (if i had adobe too, lol…) having a global menu interface that presents a uniform structure for navigating applications to the end user with sane default keyboard shortcuts (but universally configurable) would be a -game changer- it also opens the doors to novel ideas up like Command Palette-like UX paradigms. imagine changing the res…

I think you'd like Gnome. Im a former Mac person and I really like it. Ticks all the boxes you've just said.

i love Gnome and it’s always my choice when i’m in Linux land (40 was a great step forward, with a much more elegant virtual desktop workflow for one) but as far as i can see, there’s no universal interface for global menus (that is exposed on the UI anyway, there may well be something exposed on dbus…)

incidentally, KDE apps sometimes do expose global menus, and there is a shell extension for this on Gnome, but it didn’t work in 40 last i checked.

but yes, it is the perfect jumping point for the kind of workflow i desire :)

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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I recently installed Pop_OS on a new Workstation and wanted it to look and feel like MacOS as much as possible. It's surprisingly easy. You can even make Firefox look like Safari if that's your jazz. Here's what I used: https://github.com/vinceliuice/WhiteSur-gtk-theme

> https://github.com/vinceliuice/WhiteSur-gtk-theme

Thanks for this! I didn't realize that such a thing existed.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Lol. I came here to say the only thing that matters is that copy and paste in Linux is 'cntrl+shift+c'. You can try changing it, but your still fucked in most terminals, and then you end up with two key combos depending on context. It's a nightmare, and I'm really glad you have the top comment. Clearly I'm not alone.

Why bother implementing ctrl+c and ctrl+v in Linux when highlighting text copies it, and middle click pastes it? Ctrl+c feels like the dark ages in comparison.

Middle-click paste is a non-starter for anyone who uses a pointing stick (TrackPoint), since the middle mouse button is held down to scroll with the stick. Pointing stick users will usually try to disable the selection clipboard to avoid having unwanted text pop up in unexpected places.

Regardless, from my experience, the terminal is the only place where Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V are not the standard shortcuts to copy and paste on Linux. These shortcuts seem to be universal everywhere else.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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yup yup yup. i would pack my bags from Mac land and move to that distro right away. (if i had adobe too, lol…) having a global menu interface that presents a uniform structure for navigating applications to the end user with sane default keyboard shortcuts (but universally configurable) would be a -game changer- it also opens the doors to novel ideas up like Command Palette-like UX paradigms. imagine changing the res…

The global menubar is such a big thing for me that it’s tempting to try to maintain forks of various things that ensure that global menubars like those in KDE and XFCE (w/extension) work properly — that is, the menubar in the app window hides (if present) and in apps that don’t have a menubar normally (like GNOME stuff) also populate global menubars.

unfortunately the line of work i’m in demands i have immediate access to Adobe CC, which is notoriously borked on linux thru wine (for now!)

if and whenever i’m able to make the jump though, i would absolutely love to do the same. i would love to help organise and coordinate efforts towards it

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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> No one has claimed with a straight face that gimp will let you replace photoshop overnight. Eh, high school me is sitting somewhere in the background sheepishly right now. High school me was not the most intelligent guy.

I think for highschool you it probably was a 100% replacement for everything you ever did with Photoshop.

I actually did take photography and use Photoshop pretty extensively.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

Lol. I came here to say the only thing that matters is that copy and paste in Linux is 'cntrl+shift+c'. You can try changing it, but your still fucked in most terminals, and then you end up with two key combos depending on context. It's a nightmare, and I'm really glad you have the top comment. Clearly I'm not alone.

Apple gets around that issue by using a differnet modifier key. They have a different modifier key since the original Macintosh dropped the mostly standard control key. It was added to their Macintosh keyboards later, for interoperability with other systems. Windows, on the other hand, has the same issue as Linux. As soon as you call up a command prompt, they are using different shortcut keys.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

> and be as consistent as my old Macs. Would it help if I point out that this is just rose tinted glasses? ;-) Or at least, when I used Mac full time back in 2009 - 2012, it was the least consistent thing I ever used: even such basic shortcuts as moving a word forward or backwards was inconsistent. Same with home/end: in one app it would be CMD + arrow left/right, in another it would be fn + arrow left/right. In Safa…

It's been a while since I used a Mac but my recollection is that the same Emacs style key bindings were available for all text fields pretty much without exception.

https://jblevins.org/log/kbd

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