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Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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This is the distro that LTT used to test Linux gaming, right?

Linus tried it but had an issue where installing steam wiped his DE. He switched to Manjaro and Luke used Mint.

Not paying attention while installing steam wiped his desktop. TBF though he isn't that used to using Linux as a desktop. Manjaro did go much smoother for him.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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post #57

This is a little off-topic, but I've been wanting to switch from Windows to Linux and the one thing stopping me is the lack of a good package manager. WAIT, let me explain. On Windows, you can just `scoop install ripgrep fzf jq` and you're in business. And updating all installed packages is one command away. Meanwhile on Debian, the system packages are often years out of date. So authors have started making their own…

Have you considered using Debian testing or even unstable, if you want newer packages? I absolutely agree that manually installing software leads to a maintainability nightmare. How does scoop solve the problem? Is it simply by moving faster (which one could do with the less stable Debian repos), or is it doing something like isolating all shared dependencies for every package (I know this is in style these days, but…

The name "testing" kind of turns me off tbh. I want my OS to boot reliably. I don't want to be a test subject.

> How does scoop solve the problem?

It skips intermediate packaging steps and goes directly to the source. e.g. if the author publishes on GitHub, Scoop will request `github.com/ripgrep/releases/latest` (or whatever) and then download `ripgrep-$version.exe`. It has very primitive dependency handling, but I don't think that matters because I mostly install Go/Rust tools which are statically linked.

I honenstly think it's a genius solution. There's no wait time for updates, and you don't have to trust whatever user created the package on every version update.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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I guess I don't get how operating systems are still something that people have such strong opinions on. All of the major operating systems are good enough or can be made good enough by installing a few packages. Pop may be great, but it's useless if you need to run Final Cut Pro. macOS is wonderful, but not if you want to play a lot of AAA games. Windows is fine, but if you are doing a lot of Ruby on Rails you may ha…

I've used Windows on at least one machine since 3.1, and the turn they made in anti-user dark patterns going from 7 to 10 was the end for me. They want me to relinquish the idea that the OS is something I own and control for myself. And that's just not something I'm willing to do. So I quit Windows entirely a few years ago. Still need a VM for some things, but I don't miss it. I hear they finally fixed the print spooler after twenty years, but that's not enough for me.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

Lol. I came here to say the only thing that matters is that copy and paste in Linux is 'cntrl+shift+c'. You can try changing it, but your still fucked in most terminals, and then you end up with two key combos depending on context. It's a nightmare, and I'm really glad you have the top comment. Clearly I'm not alone.

Why bother implementing ctrl+c and ctrl+v in Linux when highlighting text copies it, and middle click pastes it? Ctrl+c feels like the dark ages in comparison.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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I guess I don't get how operating systems are still something that people have such strong opinions on. All of the major operating systems are good enough or can be made good enough by installing a few packages. Pop may be great, but it's useless if you need to run Final Cut Pro. macOS is wonderful, but not if you want to play a lot of AAA games. Windows is fine, but if you are doing a lot of Ruby on Rails you may ha…

Operating systems are a fundamental part of the experience of using a computer. Let me expand on that a little. For most of your tasks, it won't matter too much which OS you are using. The web browser is largely equally well supported on all platforms, as are editors, compilers, etc. Where the operating system becomes a fundamental experience is around the times when things start to go wrong in some way. What happens if you are missing an important tool? What happens if you encounter some bugs or other instabilities? What about when you need security updates? What if you don't like how windows maximize?

These error conditions are where operating systems differ so greatly from each other. On one end of the spectrum you have open source operating systems. When you encounter some error condition, you spend your time researching solutions. In the extreme, you modify whatever isn't working to your tastes on your own. On the other end of the spectrum you have fully locked down operating systems like iOS. Here when something goes wrong, you instead decide how to adapt your use of the device to avoid whatever issue you encountered.

What happens when things go wrong is what drives me to one OS or another, and is usually what is relevant in these discussions.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

Lol. I came here to say the only thing that matters is that copy and paste in Linux is 'cntrl+shift+c'. You can try changing it, but your still fucked in most terminals, and then you end up with two key combos depending on context. It's a nightmare, and I'm really glad you have the top comment. Clearly I'm not alone.

I developed the utterly useless capacity to switch between Azerty / QWERTY and OS X/Debian/Win pretty seamlessly. I will make a mistake, look à what I’m currently using a switch the layout internally.

I really wish I did not have to do that

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

#98

All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

Lol. I came here to say the only thing that matters is that copy and paste in Linux is 'cntrl+shift+c'. You can try changing it, but your still fucked in most terminals, and then you end up with two key combos depending on context. It's a nightmare, and I'm really glad you have the top comment. Clearly I'm not alone.

Are there any apps other than terminals that don't use ctrl-c? I can forgive that in a terminal app because it conflicts with SIGINT, but it would be very weird if a normal app like vscode did it differently.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

Having recently moved back to Linux (PopOS) from Windows, the one biggest annoyance is not being able to configure two-finger touchpad swipe to be browser back/forward. This is the default in Mac, easily configurable in Windows (perhaps it's the default?), and default in ChromeOS. But simply not an option in any Linux I've tried. The Epiphany Browser does it, but that lacks extension support so is a no-go for me. Any extensions or workarounds I've tried only support three-finger swipes.

So, along with consistent keyboard shortcuts, I'd like to add consistent and configurable mouse/trackball actions (some apps scrollwheel goes up/down, others it zooms, some support pinch zoom, some don't).

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