> It’s possible to see a purpose for cryptocurrencies, but NFTs are (for now) almost comically bereft of anything most of us would associate with social or cultural value. They incentivize energy production and research into better energy production. That isn't trivial.
Unless you believe that NFTs are useful in and of themselves, this is a classic example of the Broken Window Fallacy[1]. For example, we could "incentivize energy production" just as well by phasing out LED light bulbs and replacing them with incandescent ones. So why don't we? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
The Worrisome Rise of NFTs
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Re: The Worrisome Rise of NFTs
#152I checked out OpenSea a few days ago to see what was selling. I went in with low expectations but I was still shocked. The hottest NFTs are all trash. It's a bunch of dumb ape doodles and piles of variations on the same few templates. Some of them are algorithmically generated. It's just shockingly dumb, yet I have smart people I follow on Twitter and elsewhere who are convinced this is all world changing. I keep ask…
It's not dumb, it's gambling. You buy a stupid monkey doodle for $100k and hope to sell it to somebody else for $200k. Nobody wants the monkey doodle. The NFT craze has nothing whatsoever to do with art, novel technology, decentralized ownership, or any of the other high-minded concepts people keep bringing up in these discussions. It's about gambling. CrytoKitties did it back in 2017. NFTs are not new and there were…
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#153I would like to see an actual measured critique or discussion of NFTs and adjacent cryptocurrencies. I'm absolutely willing to hear that NFTs (and related cryptocurrencies) are bad for the environment, bad for society, have no "intrinsic" value, but I'd really like to hear some counterpoints. For example. * Which is worse in terms of environmental costs: ordering 100 T-shirts or minting an NFT [0]? * There will alway…
Regarding cryptocurrency and solar power, the argument has some gaping holes in it. The premise is that solar (and wind) does not have the constant generation rate that fossil fuels or nuclear plants provide, so by having miners going online when there is an energy surplus (and thus it is cheaper) can help pay for solar installations (which must be over-built to supply energy off-peak). The most obvious problem with…
I live in New York state (USA) and we have restrictive policies about how much solar we can build and push back into the grid. In some cases, even doing an investigation to see if an area can support pushing a significant amount of solar back onto the grid can cost upwards of $10k (so I've heard). This steers solar production to only provide solar to the facility that it sits next to and disincentivizes pushing solar back onto the grid.
Let's say I wanted to build a solar system, at dirt cheap costs, that could meet 3x the energy needs of my house. What do I do with the excess that can't be pushed back into the grid? You're absolutely right, I could smelt aluminium, scrub C02, or open a "smart" laundry mat, but all those require a large up front capital expenditure.
Put another way, let's say you're producing an excess of cheap energy as an individual, so maybe 100kWh per day. What technology can you install that's cheap to set up, can use the energy in a linear fashion (can scale up) and be profitable? There's other benefits, like transportability and relatively sporadic use, that might come into play as well. I would genuinely like to know what other technology could fill this niche. Cryptocurrency is one and it seems well suited.
In terms of sporadic energy availability, I've heard this argument in a video that Elon Musk did as well and I'm not sure I believe it. If the energy availability is consistent enough, say in a block of 6-10 hours in a day, then I could imagine that could provide enough stability to mine intra-day. Regardless, battery technology is coming down in price and it wouldn't be hard to install a battery system to give consistent power by increasing the solar installation cost by a factor two to three times.
In terms of your basic economic point about Bitcoin using energy that isn't available for anything else, that's like saying energy invested in supporting the networking infrastructure can't be used for anything else. The energy invested in the system is so that the system can be used as intended. If you don't believe Bitcoin/cryptocurrency has any value, then just say that.
In terms of the Visa/scaling/energy/transaction limit, yes, Bitcoin can't use "layer 1" as the payment processor at scale, but maybe providing "layer 2" solutions, like Lightning or something similar can work out. This is what places like El Salvador are using and is why people are invested in Lightning development.
Again, you might ultimately be right, but my plea is for better discussion on this topic here. Especially for the "bitcoin mining needs consistent energy availability", I haven't seen any good resources to really refute or bolster this claim.
Re: The Worrisome Rise of NFTs
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that the salespeople _frequently_ misrepresent NFTs as having legal meaning as a key part of the explanation for why you should pay so much for one and they _never_ mention that the same basis you'd need to convey the legal contract also means that you have a system you can use instead of a blockchain at much lower cost.
Has this been tested in court? Common law is very flexible, and (IANAL) I wouldn’t be surprised it if recognised an NFT sale as one. Eg if both parties believe and represent the transaction as a sale at the time, does that in itself make it a sale, regardless of finer technicalities?