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Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by dashundchen »

oxymoran wrote: post #213
maxwell86 wrote: post #156

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Good induction is light years better than good gas stoves. Ours has 4.5kW _per plate_, and its awesome. Silent, instantaneously hot, instantaneously cold, full control over the heat, no gases, etc. For heating and hot water, "remote heat" is infinitely cheaper, both in acquisition and maintenance costs, and infinitely more environmentally friendly than gas and electric heating. Sure, if you live in a remote region or…

Heat pumps only work on their own in mild climates. Cold climates still require furnace in conjunction with the heat pump. Good luck convincing anyone in the northern United States of getting rid of their furnace or hot water heater. Spouting this sort of head-in-the-clouds, wrong information only weakens your cause. “WHERE DO HEAT PUMPS WORK BEST? Heat pumps are more common in milder climates, where the temperature…

I live in the Great Lakes with a heat pump heating in a drafty Victorian house. The heat pump came with resistive heat strips but they only kick on a few days a year.

Once I airseal some more and fix some of the leaky storms I expect it to never resort to resistive at all.

Heat pumps do work in cold climates.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by gibspaulding »

jtbayly wrote: post #281
amluto wrote: post #243

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I recently bought a Polyscience/Breville Control Freak, and I’m increasingly convinced this is the future. It heats dramatically faster than a supposedly high end gas stove I compared it to despite being a lowly 1.6kW or so device. (Gas stoves are stupendously inefficient. That 15kBTU/hr stove may well deliver 15kBTU/hr to the air but not to your pan.). It heats quite evenly. And best of all, it has closed loop tempe…

Whoah! But it is expensive! $1500 for one pan at a time?!?

I'm not sure what you're looking at, but my wife and I have a mix of cast iron and some stainless steel that has been great and I don't think we paid more than $50 for any one piece.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by Aaargh20318 »

zrail wrote: post #139
Aaargh20318 wrote: post #127

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> you will have to get a Wok with a flat bottom If it has a flat bottom, then it’s not a wok. Personally, I hate cooking on induction. My parent have it and it never worked for me. I need to see/hear the gas to be able to control the heat properly. Once they shut off the gas lines due to the energy transition, I’m going to run a gas pipe from the kitchen to my basement and just buy it in canisters.

> Once they shut off the gas lines due to the energy transition, This won't happen. What will happen instead is that the gas to cook your omelette in the morning will cost three times more than going to a restaurant would and you'll make your own decision about shutting down your gas lines.

> This won't happen.

Not sure where you live, but in my country the plan is to get everyone off gas by 2050. At that time the national gas network should be shut down.

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Post by okaramian »

faeriechangling wrote: post #228
samwillis wrote: post #110

To anyone considering switching to an induction hob and hearing anecdotal stories of how some people don’t think they are “as hot” or “slower” than gas. I guarantee these are all related to the pans being used. It is of upmost importance that you get a really good set of pans “designed” for induction. We have found “tri-ply” stainless steel pans work really well, better than on gas. Cast iron is also brilliant, I inh…

The issue with induction isn’t speed, not even close. The issue relative to has is the evenness of the heat distribution over a large surface area. Gas isn’t even remotely worth the downsides but there’s a number of dishes I can make that are easier and higher quality to do on gas, like if I’m trying to sear a large pan full of meat.

I have an induction and the heat has been far more even and controllable than it has on gas. Maybe it has to do with the quality of the burner or of the pans?

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Post by hyperbovine »

jhallenworld wrote: post #267
mrblampo wrote: post #47

My wife and I decided to switch to induction after the NYT article on this topic a few months ago. Not only did we have a gas stove that was probably spiking NO2 levels when we actually used it; we also seemed to have a gas leak. It was not a big one, just a faint smell, but it was hard to pin down. A plumber concluded the connection between the range and the pipe wasn't the problem. No specific part of the range sme…

>The electrical work cost $1800 For less than 8 hours of work I'm sure.. I'm in the wrong profession. It could be worse, try doing this in an old building in NYC.

Unless there were serious unmentioned complications, that is a ludicrous amount of money to pay for a new 40-amp circuit. Upgrading the entire panel costs less where I live.

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Post by tssva »

adrianN wrote: post #261
542458 wrote: post #178

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It’s very bizarre to me how you can get very inexpensive single burner countertop induction plates ($50-100), but multi-burner built-in cooktops are dramatically more expensive ($1000-4000). Anybody know why this is?

I can order a Bosch induction top with 7.4kW and four fields for 350€ off Amazon. Where do you pay $1000?

In the US you can't order a Bosch induction top off Amazon. The cheapest 4 field Bosch induction cooktop at Home Depot, Lowe's and Best Buy (stores people frequently buy appliances at in the US) is $1700.

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Post by greedo »

gibspaulding wrote: post #302
jtbayly wrote: post #281

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Whoah! But it is expensive! $1500 for one pan at a time?!?

I'm not sure what you're looking at, but my wife and I have a mix of cast iron and some stainless steel that has been great and I don't think we paid more than $50 for any one piece.

He's referencing the induction cooktop. It's $1499 MSRP.

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Post by fennecfoxen »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #291
mc32 wrote: post #164

Gas in general may cause incidental gas pollution —but I see a problem by the author. The author mentions high pollution results when cooking —which for the author does using a gas range. However the author doesn’t discuss results from alternate ranges. I have an induction stove and every time I cook the indoor air pollution also spikes (lots of frying). It’s likely less than that caused by gas stoves but never the l…

> incidental gas pollution... the author doesn’t discuss results from alternate ranges... " The alternative ranges produce zero. Combustion heating, cooking and driving produces NO2, electric doesn't. The article is specifically about NO2, it has specific adverse health effects. > Every time I cook the indoor air pollution also spikes " What kind of pollution are you measuring? My air purifier reacts to frying too an…

The food itself can give off emissions — obviously less so if you're doing something like, say, boiling eggs in water, but if you're using high temperatures and oil then it could be significant.

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Post by gibspaulding »

mhh__ wrote: post #161
laumars wrote: post #160

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I thought that when I first switched to induction. Then I realised that induction responds instantly to any changes you set in temperature so you don’t need to move the pan about in 3D space, just leave the pan on the stove and drop the heat right down. I’m now back on gas after a house move and I miss induction so much.

I can believe it, maybe I've just only used bad induction.

My wife and I have a $200 two burner induction cooktop (Duxtop) and it definitely leaves a bit to be desired. You can tell it tries to keep temperature as conditions change, but it definitely struggles, and the adjustment is pretty coarse. I imagine $1500 Breville one someone else mentioned here is a different experience!
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