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Self-improvement is embracing your messy, imperfect life

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Re: Self-improvement is embracing your messy, imperfect life

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No, that's just called learning how to socialize when you're semi-autistic. It's not and shouldn't be a rallying cry for people who can't/never get their shit together.

I don't understand your comment. What are you saying "no" to?

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Re: Self-improvement is embracing your messy, imperfect life

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I love self-improvement. There’s many in this camp of “you’re perfect the way you are”. I don’t agree at all. I believe more in Kaizen, the idea of changing for the better. It’s similar to the ship of Theseus paradox where you slowly replace each plank on the boat, is it the same boat? Knowing about your short comings is the key. Knowing you are lazy will help you be more productive. Knowing you’re depressed will hel…

Introspection is a superpower.

Re: Self-improvement is embracing your messy, imperfect life

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In my experience, attempting to self-improve your 'personality' in social terms or trying improve your physical appearance is the field where you end up with alot of people unnecessarily suffering and thinking their natural quirks make them somehow an inferior human being compared to say, a non-neurotic 'normal' kid. Or they start by thinking that their current personality is "not them" so they fight against themselves to attempt to become someone charismatic or witty or better at social situations. This many times ends up in severe mental illness, self-hate, anxiety, etc. In these situations, something along the lines of full self-acceptance is imo the right path- it naturally comes to most people, usually not in your teens, but in your late 20s and 30s.

Also, your self-worth should never be based on your social skills or personality, and this is where many quiet/introverted nerdy/smart young folks end up suffering alot in middle/highschool/college. I'm sure many of us realize how artificial the societies of school are after we enter the adult 'real' world. Your popularity seems like everything in highschool, and it may very well be, but you learn real fast how little it matters when you leave school. PG puts it well here in his essay "Why Nerds are Unpopular": http://www.paulgraham.com/nerds.html

In terms of self-improvement for things like your habits and work ethic where your self-esteem/confidence/personality isn't at play, and isn't the 'thing' you are trying to fix, I generally think it's not that big of deal to dislike your current way of life and not embrace yourself. Accepting laziness or whatnot is probably too compassionate for your own good.

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It ends with a zen quote. The point of zen, and other form of buddhism is often misunderstood. A simple way of describing one of the core teaching of buddhism is one of the main reason we suffer is: We are constantly neurotically pulling for what we want, and pushing away what we don't want. It means as a juggles we are constantly trying to juggle our live into a state from where we think will be fullfilled. For exam…

I don't know, the biggest flaw I've always seen in the quasi-buddhist approach is that some types of suffering - such as intense physical pain, or grief - simply aren't possible to be ignored or meditated or 'enlightened' out of. As long as you're feeling that pain, you're going to be uncomfortable. There is no way out of it.

The way I see it, life vacillates between peaks, plateaus and valleys. I assure you I and most other people can very much feel 'fulfilled' by reaching an oasis of a good meal, a relationship breakthrough, a milestone accomplishment or finding the right medication for an ailment, and be fully present & immersed in that moment-by-moment experience of fulfillment, meaning and satisfaction, while it lasts. But for reasons that I think boil down to biology and possibly even physics, you cannot continue experience that depth of meaning or fulfillment when having extreme back pain while driving in heavy traffic to an unpleasant job that must be done when your dog just died. It's a pipe dream.

Re: Self-improvement is embracing your messy, imperfect life

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I made it two weeks without drinking more than a half bottle of wine a night. Then I finished my project and now, yeah. Fuck it. And fuck the bbc and the guardian as well. They just contribute to the general feeling of everything you could possibly think of having already been controlled for. We're living in a desperate state, ladies and gentlemen. Almost all of our autonomy has been taken away. You can't travel to a…

> Literally everyone I know has PTSD as a result of this pandemic.

That seems a bit… extreme? PTSD is pretty serious. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-traumatic_stress_disord...

I know the pandemic is stressful, but to the point of flashbacks, nightmares, intrusive thoughts, panic attacks, significant avoidance behavior, etc. That’s a pretty tall claim.

Re: Self-improvement is embracing your messy, imperfect life

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post #62

I love self-improvement. There’s many in this camp of “you’re perfect the way you are”. I don’t agree at all. I believe more in Kaizen, the idea of changing for the better. It’s similar to the ship of Theseus paradox where you slowly replace each plank on the boat, is it the same boat? Knowing about your short comings is the key. Knowing you are lazy will help you be more productive. Knowing you’re depressed will hel…

Introspection is a superpower.

The only problem with Introspection is that there is no end to it.

Re: Self-improvement is embracing your messy, imperfect life

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I love self-improvement. There’s many in this camp of “you’re perfect the way you are”. I don’t agree at all. I believe more in Kaizen, the idea of changing for the better. It’s similar to the ship of Theseus paradox where you slowly replace each plank on the boat, is it the same boat? Knowing about your short comings is the key. Knowing you are lazy will help you be more productive. Knowing you’re depressed will hel…

"you’re perfect the way you are" and "acceptance" are poorly phrased and easily misunderstood.

As the article tried to explain, this is about making peace with ourselves and handle feelings of self-rejection, guilt, shame and so no.

Then the healing begins.

Re: Self-improvement is embracing your messy, imperfect life

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I think a major problem with the self-improvement books I've read is their emphasis on habits.

Depending on where you are, a positive habit may be useful for getting you out of a hole but ultimately consciousness is not about acting or reacting stereotypically. It's about having the option to do things differently.

Consciousness, or self-awareness, is the real key to improvement, and it's actually an anti-habit.

e.g. rather than relying on the force of habit for daily exercise, one eventually comes to realise and to experience repeatedly that being fit is not only better than being unfit but it feels better too. No self-coercion is then subsequently required to maintain fitness

Re: Self-improvement is embracing your messy, imperfect life

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One of the main learnings in a meditative practice circles around this, and actually even more so in MBSR (Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction), an 8-week evidence-backed programme of approaches to life stress / pain.

The common misconception is that you clear your mind of thought when meditating - the reality is that you "watch the thinker", noticing when you have become captured by thought, and then attempting to spot how these thoughts make you feel.

What has this got to do with embracing an imperfect life? Well, everything - the aim of the practice is to be more in the moment, less about what has happened or will happen, less about memory or projection, and instead being in the only thing which is actually real - which is this moment right now. Further down this path is then attempting to spend less time striving, which of course sits centrally to Buddhism.

As humans we spend so, so much time away from now. We're literally "lost in thought" - chewing through old issues and "what if's", or striving to be That Other Guy, or just down an endless rabbithole of internet. Rationally and based on past experience, we know that we won't actually be happier if we get that new job / salary / wife / house - or we might be briefly, but the pleasure goes so quickly.. But: emotionally we're caught up in it all the time, and it takes practice to be just here, content with what we have, ok with all the rough bits, the gnarly bits, the unfinished to-do's, the fat stomach, the imperfect fitness habit, whatever.

Where it gets even more intense is that literally everything we see out there in the "modern" world is built precisely to make us more unhappy and less content. Less contentment creates more consumers. My car is fine, but I saw that ad and man, that thing is SO spangly, maybe I NEED IT... Your feeds are rammed to the hilt full of people posting about their perfect lives, their perfect meals, their perfect pets. No-one posts anything when they're miserable, covered in vomit, feeling sad. Everyone is head-down on their phones looking at "perfection" and failing to see the beauty of the sun setting right in front of them. And so it goes on - feeding an already in-built tension into an endless pressure to Be That Perfect Person.

I've found that taking a mindful approach doesn't negate ambition or personal development. It's just that if you feel content in your heart, in your core (which is what you start to get from a solid, self-aware, centred meditative practice), then those things are just waves - you can catch them and ride them as much as you want but the "ocean" - a feeling of centre - is always there to support you.

This also doesn't suggest that everything is perfect - it isn't. Some things need to be changed. Sometimes jobs are crap, relationships aren't worth saving. Sometimes you have to move on, and need that tension to impel you in a direction. But as an endless life force, seeking perfection (particularly through endless consumerism) is clearly the path that fools take. If we spend time practicing - through meditation, prayer, or whatever your contemplative medicine is - we can become more aware of how little time we spend just being, here and now, and when you notice that you can gently start to remedy things.

Re: Self-improvement is embracing your messy, imperfect life

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I love self-improvement. There’s many in this camp of “you’re perfect the way you are”. I don’t agree at all. I believe more in Kaizen, the idea of changing for the better. It’s similar to the ship of Theseus paradox where you slowly replace each plank on the boat, is it the same boat? Knowing about your short comings is the key. Knowing you are lazy will help you be more productive. Knowing you’re depressed will hel…

Consistent reflection is a huge force multiplier, but it's sadly underrepresented in self-improvement because it's not sexy or fast. Yet it's the only sustainable solution.

You can't fix what you don't know. Once you find out what's holding you back, you can put a plan in place to address it. This is a slow , iterative process - but it works.

Shameless plug, but this is my free program to cultivate regular reflection: https://themoai.org/intentionality

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