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Health Canada authorizes psychedelic drugs for therapies

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Re: Health Canada authorizes psychedelic drugs for therapies

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Post by jokowueu »

unmole wrote: post #18
standardUser wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a long history of human consumption of some substances that far surpasses that of modern pharmaceuticals.

Like lead for instance?

I believe what is meant here is that there is long term use of such substances so we can be sure if it's safety

For example there are studies of very long term Ayahuasca use in certain south American tribes . Blood tests were taken and studied to see it's effects on them.

Another one is use of iboga in other tribes in Ghana

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Post by lrhegeba »

unmole wrote: post #18
standardUser wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a long history of human consumption of some substances that far surpasses that of modern pharmaceuticals.

Like lead for instance?

good example. due to insufficient knowledge about its effects (no theory regarding matter and its interactions) humans had to go by trial-and-error. which led to bad outcomes like consuming lead, mercury and countless others agains ailments/diseases. so, one could see it as a very long-running clinical phase II(?) trial. so thank you science for not judging morally but giving us explanations and real evidence so we can decide if and for whom it may be appropriate.

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Post by belval »

epgui wrote: post #16
lee wrote: post #11

Magic mushrooms are now entering in the "gray zone" of legality in Canada. They are illegal, but there are online mushroom dispensaries in Canada that are blatantly selling them online as law enforcement is turning a blind eye to it. A few weeks ago I ordered an ounce of shrooms online using a crypto-currency that has a smiling Japanese dog for a mascot. A week later it arrived in my mailbox without any issues. What…

There are a bunch of brick-and-mortar stores downtown Vancouver that plainly advertise that they are selling magic mushrooms. You can see the product through the window, there are big signs, the business names are super obvious, and they're in regular, well-frequented, non-sketchy neighbourhoods.

Yep, there was one near my apartment in Yaletown (Vancouver). I did quite the double take when I first noticed.

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Post by belval »

908B64B197 wrote: post #17
philistine wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bilingualism in Canada is not about providing both languages automatically in all contexts. Radio-Canada and the CBC are two distinct public broadcasters under a shared corporate structure. So they have two websites, two networks of stations (TV and radio), and they share buildings where it makes sense, but a news article in French Radio-Canada will not mean the English CBC will even be interested to publish anything…

> but a news article in French Radio-Canada will not mean the English CBC will even be interested to publish anything on the subject. Or that they wouldn't give it a different spin (remember, monolinguals can't fact check easily...)

You'd love federal elections in Canada, it's a pet peeve of mine to listen to both speeches of a candidate and note the differences. Trudeau did a lot of that in the last campaign where he wanted to appease both Quebec and the ROC so he added some qualifiers to his sentences in either language to create or remove ambiguity on some promises he was making.

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Post by gunfighthacksaw »

unmole wrote: post #12
gunfighthacksaw wrote: post #6

Good, I’m supportive. Even if you think psychs are not positive or moral, it’s pure bad faith to use that as a reason to exclude them from research. It’s mind boggling that amphetamines, benzos, etc have been common in clinical settings for years, but not organic compounds derived from various fungal species (psilocybe and ergot) both of which have lived alongside us (or vice versa) for centuries if not millennia.

> organic compounds derived from various fungal species (psilocybe and ergot) both of which have lived alongside us (or vice versa) for centuries if not millennia. Why do you think that is relevant?

They are cheap to produce. A couple of grad students working hard for 2 weeks could create enough acid to keep the entire US trippy for a year.

Can’t charge exorbitant fees for something trivial to produce.

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Post by gunfighthacksaw »

clusterfish wrote: post #19
gunfighthacksaw wrote: post #6

Good, I’m supportive. Even if you think psychs are not positive or moral, it’s pure bad faith to use that as a reason to exclude them from research. It’s mind boggling that amphetamines, benzos, etc have been common in clinical settings for years, but not organic compounds derived from various fungal species (psilocybe and ergot) both of which have lived alongside us (or vice versa) for centuries if not millennia.

Good, yes. But something being "organic" / "natural" is just a generic content-free talking point to use whenever it fits your agenda. Like you wouldn't be supporting this if these compounds were useful but -gasp- synthetic.

They are cheap to produce. A couple of grad students working hard for 2 weeks could create enough acid to keep the entire US trippy for a year, assuming they had the blessings of the lab owner and free access to inputs.

Can’t charge exorbitant fees for something trivial to produce.

I’d probably respond to your tone and assumptions with a string of vulgar invective containing ‘cope’, ‘nerd’, ‘sneed’ etc but I now realize this forum is not the place.

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Post by sigmaprimus »

dukeofdoom wrote: post #20

It will help Canadians not to feel hunger pains, once the food trucks are turned back.

I find this comment quite interesting as it seems that the majority of Canadians are unaware of the upcoming restrictions regarding this subject.

It almost seems that there are many more Americans upset with this than Canadians, maybe this has to do with the fact many more Canadians have rolled up their sleeves IDK.

I think the simple answer other than striking down the law would be to have the brokerage agents that are already located in northern US border towns to contract short haul cross border drivers that have been jabbed.

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Post by sigmaprimus »

belval wrote: post #25
908B64B197 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but a news article in French Radio-Canada will not mean the English CBC will even be interested to publish anything on the subject. Or that they wouldn't give it a different spin (remember, monolinguals can't fact check easily...)

You'd love federal elections in Canada, it's a pet peeve of mine to listen to both speeches of a candidate and note the differences. Trudeau did a lot of that in the last campaign where he wanted to appease both Quebec and the ROC so he added some qualifiers to his sentences in either language to create or remove ambiguity on some promises he was making.

And the latest Governor General now speaks in three different languages!
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