Joel Spolsky Launches Trello - Organize Anything Together
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Re: Joel Spolsky Launches Trello - Organize Anything Together
#122My first question is where's the API? This is something I plan to use but I will want some way to export the information to non-users, dead trees, etc. (I'd need it anyway for private boards, The boss wants it in excel etc.)
I'd also like to question the wisdom of closing the 'public' content off from non-users. Choosing 'Public' will make the board visible to all Trello users. Very closed-web, I don't use Orkut anymore and I wouldn't be on github if it wasn't so visible and ubiquitous. Not a complaint, just food for thought.
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#123I don't like this, it's telling me to go upgrade my browser as punishment for having the wrong user agent. When I'm trying to have privacy. My agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20091221 Firefox/3.5.7 I'm using 6.0.2 browser, however. It's a pretty common user agent: https://panopticlick.eff.org/index.php Eff does not provide the most common user agents list so I have no idea wha…
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; U; rv:5.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/5.0
Mozilla/5.0 (U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/5.0
By the way, have you considered using this[1]? Seems the best option to prevent tracking. [1]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/randomuseragent/Re: Joel Spolsky Launches Trello - Organize Anything Together
#124If i should be honest I didn't like it so much. It felt too cluttered, the interface has way too many visual elements for my brain to process in efficient time. It's also missing more obvious visual indicators such as color or shapes. The list look all the same, they don't even have different icons identifying them, only the the name. That will do it but it's not the ultimate visual indicator.
As a person that barely uses the mouse, I don't find this so practical, it's click after click after click, but I guess that problem affects almost every web application out there.
I might be too focused simple/minimal things, this tries to lay information in a rather complex data structure, which in practice it means a lot of mental exercise before you get the info. I believe many like it, not me, give me a search box and a list of results every day.
Re: Joel Spolsky Launches Trello - Organize Anything Together
#125Interestingly doesn't work in IE8... Only found out because I wanted to view the source and it failed in Chrome so tried IE (turned out view source failed because of the load on the server atm). Joel, btw, the favicon's missing, it's explicitly referenced in the source but returns a 404. EDIT: Forgot to say like the look of it, good job.
Thanks for the nice words! I'm not sure about IE8, but, this being a new product, I specifically told the team not to worry about any non-current browsers. By the time this product hits its stride, IE14 will be shipping.
Re: Joel Spolsky Launches Trello - Organize Anything Together
#126How about email integration where you can forward emails to different lists? Is there an API that we can integrate with Mailgun?
Use case I had in mind is for a sales funnel (or any funnel) where I can bcc the list corresponding with the stage in the funnel as I am corresponding with a lead and have the email move through the lists accordingly.
Re: Joel Spolsky Launches Trello - Organize Anything Together
#127So this is Basecamp + Backpack, modernized and combined?
I actually thought 'Wave for Business' at first glance due to the the more free-form nature.
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#130It definitely has all the trappings of a Fog Creek app: - The overall UI: built by programmers who dabble in design - A seven(!) minute video about how _simple_ it is to use. It's easy! Instead of just raising your hand, you mark a light on the corresponding tote board, which informs your manager that you need more information. I hate to be contrarian, but there are many other apps out there that solve this problem m…
FogBugz definitely suffers from what you describe. Despite what Fog Creek might say about it being easy, it feels clunky and indirect. And slow -- it's 2011, yet everything that manipulates the case table (arguably the most important part of the app) seems to require a full page refresh. It definitely suffers from the "you must mold your brain into our mindset to use" mentality. Furthermore, it's languishing -- most of the updates release to the On Demand version in the past year feel like small tweaks, many related to Kiln. Where's the leadership?
Kiln, on the other hand, is excellent. No problems whatsoever. Does what it's supposed to and does it well. No friction.
Now, Trello. I've only used it for a few hours, but already I look forward to using it for as many projects as I can. Simply amazing and simple and intuitive, all at the same time. It has negative friction -- practically invites me to put everything I have on it. I don't know what Fog Creek's doing in regards to product design, but it's working.
(And granted, most of those FogBugz problems could simply be because of a hefty anchor of legacy code. Maybe FC has simply moved on entirely)