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Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by m_eiman »

mizzao wrote: post #114
samwillis wrote: post #110

To anyone considering switching to an induction hob and hearing anecdotal stories of how some people don’t think they are “as hot” or “slower” than gas. I guarantee these are all related to the pans being used. It is of upmost importance that you get a really good set of pans “designed” for induction. We have found “tri-ply” stainless steel pans work really well, better than on gas. Cast iron is also brilliant, I inh…

How do I use my trusty wok on an induction stove? On gas we have a wok ring that just sits on top of the burner.

There are wok pans designed for induction, eg https://www.electrolux.se/accessories/accessories/cooking-ac...

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by samwillis »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #127
samwillis wrote: post #110

To anyone considering switching to an induction hob and hearing anecdotal stories of how some people don’t think they are “as hot” or “slower” than gas. I guarantee these are all related to the pans being used. It is of upmost importance that you get a really good set of pans “designed” for induction. We have found “tri-ply” stainless steel pans work really well, better than on gas. Cast iron is also brilliant, I inh…

> you will have to get a Wok with a flat bottom If it has a flat bottom, then it’s not a wok. Personally, I hate cooking on induction. My parent have it and it never worked for me. I need to see/hear the gas to be able to control the heat properly. Once they shut off the gas lines due to the energy transition, I’m going to run a gas pipe from the kitchen to my basement and just buy it in canisters.

True, a flat bottom means it isn’t a “classic” Wok but we find them just as usable.

I think there are probably still UX problems to be solved with Induction, the visual feedback on gas is better. We fortunately have knobs on ours (I hate the touch buttons on some).

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by asteroidp »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #129

I'm surprised this person was surprised. Do the American home building standards not take account of this? Fairly certain it's already law for a while in other places, e.g. if you have a gas stove or central heating then you need greater ventilation and maybe carbon monoxide alarms and so forth. New houses in some places aren't allowed to have gas connections at all, which is partly greenhouse gas related, but the he…

I am glad I don't live anywhere near places that are prohibiting gas appliances

Gas furnace, stove, dryer and water heater are much nicer than the electric counterparts

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

#134

Post by asteroidp »

samwillis wrote: post #120
mizzao wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do I use my trusty wok on an induction stove? On gas we have a wok ring that just sits on top of the burner.

(Just edited my comment to mention woks, sorry) You would need to get a special flat bottom Wok designed for induction. I believe there are also some induction woks that come with a special plate or ring you place them on to make them work and still have a curved bottom, I have no experience of them.

The ones with the ring are junk

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by zrobotics »

wantoncl wrote: post #93
sgt wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tactile feedback? Knobs? What do you think this is, the 1950s? No no. Your next stove should have a touchscreen, maybe not even a screen at all - control everything via your phone using a cloud based platform that connects to your stove./s

OK, but where does the blockchain and Stovecoin mining fit in? I gotta make money from cooking on it somehow!

>> I gotta make money from cooking on it somehow!

This may be old-fashioned, but have you considered using the stove to cook food and then selling the food? If we need to get technology involved, you could accept payments via square. Hell, you could probably even accept payment via blockchain.

But then again, how will the poor stove manufacturer continue to capture monetary value from your purchase? I just bought some delicious tamales from a coworkers mom, and I doubt she shared any of those ill-gotten gains with Samsung. Clearly this is a sector in need of disruption StoveCoin is sounding better and better. Plus, all the waste heat from mining can make kitchens as hot as operating a gas stove, which is what induction stoves are missing. Let me know when the ICO is happening!

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by samwillis »

m_eiman wrote: post #131
mizzao wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do I use my trusty wok on an induction stove? On gas we have a wok ring that just sits on top of the burner.

There are wok pans designed for induction, eg https://www.electrolux.se/accessories/accessories/cooking-ac...

That looks fascinating, I would love to know the physics of that ring and how it works. I had always assumed you needed a whole solid ferrous ring touching the glass plate whereas this is only touching in three places. It must then be electrically conducting from the ring to the Wok to induct the eddy current as those three points wouldn’t be enough to conduct heat.

Alternatively maybe it’s just relying on inducting directly to the Wok bottom but the surface area touching the glass plate is very small so I can’t see it working well.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

#137

Post by bennysomething »

clusterfish wrote: post #122

Apparently unpopular opinion: despite growing up with gas stoves and cooking every day I do not find them any better at it than decent electric ones (not talking about induction). Granted, my kitchen is not Michelin rated, but I have no idea what fancy temperature control people are constantly raving over with gas. Electric has a bit of thernal inertia, yes. If you cooked more than a few times on your own, you know w…

My wok doesn't work as well with electric and I find it easier to cook steaks with gas

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by Moru »

wantoncl wrote: post #93
sgt wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tactile feedback? Knobs? What do you think this is, the 1950s? No no. Your next stove should have a touchscreen, maybe not even a screen at all - control everything via your phone using a cloud based platform that connects to your stove./s

OK, but where does the blockchain and Stovecoin mining fit in? I gotta make money from cooking on it somehow!

This is obviously how the stove generates the heat. The CPU is doing bitcoin mining for Samsung. Each plate has it's own set of CPU's depending on size.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by zrail »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #127
samwillis wrote: post #110

To anyone considering switching to an induction hob and hearing anecdotal stories of how some people don’t think they are “as hot” or “slower” than gas. I guarantee these are all related to the pans being used. It is of upmost importance that you get a really good set of pans “designed” for induction. We have found “tri-ply” stainless steel pans work really well, better than on gas. Cast iron is also brilliant, I inh…

> you will have to get a Wok with a flat bottom If it has a flat bottom, then it’s not a wok. Personally, I hate cooking on induction. My parent have it and it never worked for me. I need to see/hear the gas to be able to control the heat properly. Once they shut off the gas lines due to the energy transition, I’m going to run a gas pipe from the kitchen to my basement and just buy it in canisters.

> Once they shut off the gas lines due to the energy transition,

This won't happen. What will happen instead is that the gas to cook your omelette in the morning will cost three times more than going to a restaurant would and you'll make your own decision about shutting down your gas lines.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #127
samwillis wrote: post #110

To anyone considering switching to an induction hob and hearing anecdotal stories of how some people don’t think they are “as hot” or “slower” than gas. I guarantee these are all related to the pans being used. It is of upmost importance that you get a really good set of pans “designed” for induction. We have found “tri-ply” stainless steel pans work really well, better than on gas. Cast iron is also brilliant, I inh…

> you will have to get a Wok with a flat bottom If it has a flat bottom, then it’s not a wok. Personally, I hate cooking on induction. My parent have it and it never worked for me. I need to see/hear the gas to be able to control the heat properly. Once they shut off the gas lines due to the energy transition, I’m going to run a gas pipe from the kitchen to my basement and just buy it in canisters.

I believe they sell induction hobs that project blue light 'flames' to reflect the heat strength as a visual aid. Not sure if any do the audio as well.

https://www.theverge.com/2015/1/6/7504115/samsungs-virtual-f...

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