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Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by reaperducer »

SoapSeller wrote: post #101
sgt wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tactile feedback? Knobs? What do you think this is, the 1950s? No no. Your next stove should have a touchscreen, maybe not even a screen at all - control everything via your phone using a cloud based platform that connects to your stove./s

Control via phone will actuallly be the best. I could buy a bunch of expensive hifi qualitu knobs and potentiometers and build my own panel to control the stove.

Control via phone will actuallly be the best.

And then your toddler throws your phone in the toilet while you're making Christmas dinner, and you can't turn the thing off.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by JackFr »

JackMcMack wrote: post #87
Flashtoo wrote: post #80

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I like induction cooking as well, but it's not _that_ fast. Assuming a 3 kW (usually it's less powerful) induction stovetop, 7 kg of water, 4 J/(g.c) specific heat and 90 C temperature increase, that would take at the very least 14 minutes. Should take longer if you include heating the pan itself, phase change energy and heat losses. If you wanted to do it in two minutes, that would take twice as much power as a home…

I can confirm that our induction stove is very fast, much faster at boiling water than the (domestic) gas stoves I've had experience with. A pot of water really does boil in under two minutes, so I wanted to question your math, but it seems correct :-). The problem here is the quantity, why are you (gp) boiling 7 liters of water? edit: the boost is more powerful (3.7kW for the largest zone), but still. That's time li…

The difference in volume between a normal tea kettle < 2 mins and large pasta pot ~14 mins seems intuitively correct simply based on volume.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by samwillis »

leobg wrote: post #29
aemreunal wrote: post #16

I enjoy cooking a lot and I cooked on gas stoves, electric ones (the ones that have those red hot spiral things under a glass) and top-of-the-line induction ones. In my opinion (and probably many restaurants' opinions from what I can see through their reactions on bans for gas appliances in new buildings), a gas stove is just unmatched in how much easier and better it makes cooking. I totally get the desire to switch…

I love induction. The main annoyance, for me, are the touch controls. You regulate up or down in steps, and the controls sometimes have trouble recognizing your fingers if they are wet. There’s also no tactile feedback. I’d much rather turn a knob. Then it would be perfect.

We have an electric Range Master stove with an induction hob. Love that it’s controls are all still knobs!

The are big plus is it doubles as extra worktop as it’s just so big (and flat).

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by mizzao »

samwillis wrote: post #110

To anyone considering switching to an induction hob and hearing anecdotal stories of how some people don’t think they are “as hot” or “slower” than gas. I guarantee these are all related to the pans being used. It is of upmost importance that you get a really good set of pans “designed” for induction. We have found “tri-ply” stainless steel pans work really well, better than on gas. Cast iron is also brilliant, I inh…

How do I use my trusty wok on an induction stove?

On gas we have a wok ring that just sits on top of the burner.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by mikewarot »

teirce wrote: post #31
mikewarot wrote: post #9

A truck hit a pole near our house and we lost power overnight. It was running 2 burners with water on our gas stove all night long that kept our house from freezing, as it was 15 degrees F outside and 49 degrees inside. (Old house, no real insulation) I was glad to have it as a backup plan.

This is a really, really bad idea. Please do not do this. A quick search online will give you tons of results about potential fires and carbon monoxide poisoning. https://ota.dc.gov/release/dangers-using-your-stove-home-hea...

Carbon monoxide detectors were in place, and, as stated, the house is drafty and cold, and I was staying awake the whole time.

I agree, it was a really bad idea, but better than letting the pipes freeze.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by eptcyka »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #71
leobg wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love induction. The main annoyance, for me, are the touch controls. You regulate up or down in steps, and the controls sometimes have trouble recognizing your fingers if they are wet. There’s also no tactile feedback. I’d much rather turn a knob. Then it would be perfect.

I don't know how anyone can cook with these things for exactly the reasons you mention. Cooking can be chaotic with many things to keep track at once. Fingers are wet, or greasy so buttons don't work. Something overflows with just a few tiny drops the thing switches off leading to a problem with something else on the stove that requires constant stirring because now you're forced to clean your hands, dry to spillage…

My mother uses her bialetti moka pot on her induction stove every morning. I'm not entirely sure what you're on about.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by JackFr »

Symbiote wrote: post #72
bogota wrote: post #20

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Its not about power or speed for me. Whenever i visit my parents i hate cooking anything because the electric stoves release heat in bursts then turn off for a bit then a huge burst. It’s impossible to cook anything the way you want . Normally i just go for overcooking everything. But in general i find cooking relaxing and that stove turns it into something that makes me mad every morning. Maybe this is specific to t…

You are comparing a cheap electric radiant hob to a gas one. The GP was praising an induction hob, which is the third type.

Radiant electric replace the age old coil with elements below a ceramic or glass surface. They are uniformly abysmal to cook with.

Induction are very different from radiant electric and require cookware of particular materials. They are amazing in some respects and limited in others.

From a glance though both have smooth glassy surfaces that look modern.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by ospzfmbbzr »

I have induction but I do prefer gas for cooking with a good gas stove. Induction is great for boiling water FAST. I see people saying gas is faster but it's not even close with a decent induction stove.

That said I wouldn't stand with my balls next to the front burner on an induction stove due the EMF. I stand a few inches back.

The recommendation is to primarily use the back burners and occasional front burner use as required.

I've tested this with an EMF meter and it's pretty bad right up against my stove.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by arka2147483647 »

mizzao wrote: post #114
samwillis wrote: post #110

To anyone considering switching to an induction hob and hearing anecdotal stories of how some people don’t think they are “as hot” or “slower” than gas. I guarantee these are all related to the pans being used. It is of upmost importance that you get a really good set of pans “designed” for induction. We have found “tri-ply” stainless steel pans work really well, better than on gas. Cast iron is also brilliant, I inh…

How do I use my trusty wok on an induction stove? On gas we have a wok ring that just sits on top of the burner.

A good point. Alot of depends on the style of cooking you do, and how heat is used in that cooking style. I personally dont even have a wok, so the idea would never occur to me.

Re: How bad is my gas stove?

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Post by samwillis »

mizzao wrote: post #114
samwillis wrote: post #110

To anyone considering switching to an induction hob and hearing anecdotal stories of how some people don’t think they are “as hot” or “slower” than gas. I guarantee these are all related to the pans being used. It is of upmost importance that you get a really good set of pans “designed” for induction. We have found “tri-ply” stainless steel pans work really well, better than on gas. Cast iron is also brilliant, I inh…

How do I use my trusty wok on an induction stove? On gas we have a wok ring that just sits on top of the burner.

(Just edited my comment to mention woks, sorry)

You would need to get a special flat bottom Wok designed for induction. I believe there are also some induction woks that come with a special plate or ring you place them on to make them work and still have a curved bottom, I have no experience of them.

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