Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs? • Hacker News Board

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by tome » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 11:21 AM UTC

grog454 wrote: post #670

Frost1x wrote: post #367

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Not necessarily. You're at a disadvantage because you've suddenly lost the total leverage you once (thought you) had. It's still possible for the org to redeem itself. The issue is, no org takes the opportunity. Part of the issue is that businesses have become so greedy people no longer even want to waste their time negotiating with them. Once I have an offer in hand, I can ask you for some things like a raise, reduc…

>You just earned loyalty points which are hard to come by. Employers probably love when you give them "loyalty points" because they can be substituted for their more tangible "dollar points".

Based on my reading of the story the employer bought loyalty points with dollar points. How did they obtain them in your reading?

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by tome » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 11:21 AM UTC

foobarian wrote: post #118

hkt wrote: post #94

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The threshold where you have enough has been driven up by crazy rents and house prices. Personally, I want my house paid off before I'm 40, so I shoot for maximum earnings and remote work that lets me live in a cheaper place. That ratio makes my ambition very attainable. Related is the sustainability of work: I don't want to need high earnings past 40. I want to retire into a second career I'll find more fulfilling b…

Why would you pay off your house when you can keep the cash in an investment account making > 5% APR vs. the house loan which presumably is in the low 3s.

Where are you getting 5% interest? Best I can find in the UK is about 2% on low balances.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 11:26 AM UTC

That’s a fairly unsurprising poll. It’s interesting that “life balance” scores so low. That may reflect on the HN crowd, more than tech, in general. This is a fairly entrepreneurial lot.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by kleiba » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 11:47 AM UTC

bastardoperator wrote: post #306

coldcode wrote: post #132

Rather than look for another job I retired at 63.5. My job was long hours, high stress, high visibility, continuous deadlines and changes that never ended at a large non FAANG company. Compensation was OK (not FAANG but OK for where I am). Everything I or my team shipped worked great; but lots of things with these challenges never shipped for political/idiotic reasons. So much budget was wasted on Exec whims and fant…

I'm fortunate enough to be paying off my house next year and strongly considering an early retirement. Granted I'm in my 40's, I just yearn to work on something I can poor my heart and soul into even if it fails. My dream is to write a video game and the only thing prohibiting that is lack of time. I've done an IPO, I've worked for FAANG/MAMAA, I've done keynotes at conferences, I've been an IC, Manager, Director. I…

Funny. I'm in my 40s also but decided on a career in academia (CS) when I was younger instead of the tech industry. What a mistake.

I recently lost my job to due to a lack of funding and I'm a pretty difficult hire now: academia is done for me, if you haven't made it to professor by my age, you're obviously worthless.

But for an industry job, I'm facing the dilemma that I'm formally highly qualified but have no relevant (industry) experience to show. That is, I'm too mature for a junior position but too inexperienced for anything else.

To make things worse, I left the states over a decade ago, and thus have no relevant network there. Not that I have a network outside academia over here, either...

I'm so far removed from your situation (being able to pay off your house and thinking about retiring) that it's not even funny. My wife and I were only able to buy a tiny town house last year (some job that will allow us to pay off our loan over the next 20 years.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by efficientsticks » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 11:51 AM UTC

Resigned some time ago from my last job.

I’d much prefer a comfortable salary and working 3 days per week than more salary than I need and working 5 days a week, and I definitely want to keep those extra days to work on my own interests.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by buzzwords » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 12:12 PM UTC

daenz wrote: post #54

I'll be departing my job at the end of the month. I had too many roles, affecting too many pieces of engineering, and my title didn't reflect my work. I needed to go down to a 4 day work week and have my title reflect my roles, but my manager attempted to call my bluff and essentially said it's not going to happen. I hinted about what my decision would have to be if these accomodations couldn't be made, but he didn't…

Reading the comments here is quite fascinating. I have handed in my notice too for similar reasons.

I took this job with a pay cut so that I can do more coding as my previous experience was mostly support.

But after two years I haven't done that much coding.

Currently I wear too many hats too, and very little experience in any one them.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by monkeycantype » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 12:33 PM UTC

I'm a bit late to the party, but since the pandemic, microsoft teams has been my office, and at the end of each day, to make sure no one will call me, or hear some thing on the microphone, I have to exit teams. On windows, this means selecting 'quit'. And I think to myself, yes, maybe I should....

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by husamia » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 12:48 PM UTC

I have been with my employer for 10 years. I had several managers come and go. I go to work because I enjoy my job. My managers know my dedication and hard work. I once challenged my manager to fire me. They ended up getting fired. the only reason I would leave is for a better company. I havn't yet come across one.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by drdeadringer » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 1:13 PM UTC

mym1990 wrote: post #382

AlwaysRock wrote: post #282

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I was playing a board game with my 7-year-old niece recently. She negotiates the same way most companies do. She holds the line firmly until her bluff is called, and then backtracks quickly once it's too late. The biggest différance is my 7-year-old will learn, while companies will continue to make the same mistakes.

Negotiation was one of my favorite classes I took in college, I think it should be taught as soon as possible. I must say applying it in real life under stressful conditions has been much harder than in the classroom! At the end of the day I think a lot of companies don't operate from a standpoint of both parties coming out fairly, which just leads to mistrust in the end.

TIL there are colleges who actually have a class dedicated to the topic of negotiation.

Is this "new", say within the past 15-20 years?

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by creakybreakey » Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 1:18 PM UTC

I moved job recently. I was simply bored and felt like i was at nothing and not improving and at the same time wasnt being pushed at all. There was a big engineering culture which I liked but all the tooling, code style and even the languages i was working with were either in house or a horrible twisting of a standard language.

I moved to a much smaller company and so far the code and people are much more approachable and i also got a 25% salary boost which brought me well over the baseline for where I live.