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Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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I'm currently rebuilding my website and swapping as much of the tech stack for web3, the tech has really come a long way.

what are you swapping?

AWS buckets for ipfs&filecoin, AWS lambdas for smartcontracts, netlify for spheron, login with wallets

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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One of the good things that I think happened from the pandemic is that more and more people are realizing that tying up your identity and sense of self-worth in your job is a bad thing, that's why I'm very glad to see compensation so high on this list. Sure, everyone wants to work in a good working environment, but I think the idea that "nobody left because of the money" is finally being put to bed. The fact is that…

The trouble is you soon get used to the extra money. So if you have only taken the job for the renumeration then you can become trapped in a role that you don't like but can't get out of.

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The threshold where you have enough has been driven up by crazy rents and house prices. Personally, I want my house paid off before I'm 40, so I shoot for maximum earnings and remote work that lets me live in a cheaper place. That ratio makes my ambition very attainable. Related is the sustainability of work: I don't want to need high earnings past 40. I want to retire into a second career I'll find more fulfilling b…

Why would you pay off your house when you can keep the cash in an investment account making > 5% APR vs. the house loan which presumably is in the low 3s.

I don't trust banks, the market and the governments manipulating them.

You never know when they're going to pull the rug from the infinite growth market. Maybe Crypto will do that? Maybe a few more years of lockdown? Who knows?

I agree that it's an unlikely scenario, but I'd rather be poorer and own my house than be dependant on a bank - even if that means compromising on its size or location.

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I do find it surprising compensation is at the top. I've never changed jobs over money. In fact several times I've taken new jobs that pay less on the promise of it being more fun. Which is not to say I'll work for unreasonably low pay, I talk comp ranges with recruiters first to know if it is worth continuing the discussion. But beyond a reasonable point, more pay doesn't make any difference (well, unless it's like…

"I've never changed jobs over money" and "+/- 100k"... lol, you're in a very, very different position than most of us if "+/- 100k" isn't a fundamentally life-changing kind of +/-.

To be fair, I am in Silicon Valley so that biases the numbers towards the higher end of the ranges. But I took a ~200K pay cut from my previous job to my current one because I went from a successful public company (not FAANG but similar pay) to a startup. Startups are a gamble for sure, maybe it's not worth anything. But the base salary is still good enough to pay all my bills, so that's good enough. I try to maximize happiness (I don't always succeed!), not income.

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I changed jobs on 1.1.2022. The first trigger when I started looking for another job was solely because of compensation. When I learned what I _could_ make and my boss (two levels above me actually) just ignored my requests for half a year, I started looking. Soon I realized that I could also shift the focus of my work towards something I enjoy even more doing, so that became a reason as well. Now, after being two weeks on the new job, I noted that maybe the company culture is also a factor, but it did not drive my decision process at all.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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My old boss Eric Carlsen used to say, nobody left because of money. They may get more money if they change jobs. But they start looking because they're unhappy. So when somebody asked for more money, he'd start by asking what was bothering them.

Yes, this is true, but the money (or lack thereof) can be the thing making them unhappy.

I agree in principle, though. Looking and applying for jobs is stressful. Attending interviews even more so plus it will cost you holiday. People aren't just doing this speculatively just in case they can get a better offer elsewhere. People only go through this if they are thoroughly unhappy in their current position, for whatever reason.

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post #54

I'll be departing my job at the end of the month. I had too many roles, affecting too many pieces of engineering, and my title didn't reflect my work. I needed to go down to a 4 day work week and have my title reflect my roles, but my manager attempted to call my bluff and essentially said it's not going to happen. I hinted about what my decision would have to be if these accomodations couldn't be made, but he didn't…

> I declined because I don't negotiate like that. If you mismanage a negotiation, there is no do-overs just because you overplayed your hand. The trust is broken.

As a freelancer, this is a pretty standard scenario where you need to have somewhere to go when you tell an old (even cherished) client about your latest price rise. If the current employer needs extra time to think it over, even by a bluff call, it's nothing personal to me.

Not that I am a hardened business person, far from it - I just have a blasted view that there are no real friendships in business that trump the 'bottom line'. If I had had a different experience in my working life, I would have welcomed it! Contracts exist because trust in business is too risky a strategy.

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The problem is, some cannot believe that high performers, can be experts in multiple branches of a field. Their development slows to a crawl, as they get stuck in one role. Yours, and others like you, just keep that intense growth happening. It isn't necessarily their fault, either. Circumstances can keep someone slotted deep in a role, with no way to expand laterally. So, they may literally think such breadth and de…

The other aspect is organizational appetite for risk. The first company I worked for let anyone grow into any role they proved they could do. If you solved the hard problems you were the senior developer, if you took the reigns you were quickly promoted to lead/manager. Seniority didn't count for anything and roles were very fluid. That's an uncommon situation and what I've learned is it's hard to imagine if you've s…

Right, yes, this too.

I recall a contract with a government department. Very much like this. And the very lengthy discussion about the simplest things.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

#710
post #54

I'll be departing my job at the end of the month. I had too many roles, affecting too many pieces of engineering, and my title didn't reflect my work. I needed to go down to a 4 day work week and have my title reflect my roles, but my manager attempted to call my bluff and essentially said it's not going to happen. I hinted about what my decision would have to be if these accomodations couldn't be made, but he didn't…

Ah, the old "take this job and shove it" gambit. Interesting. Let's see what the boss's next move is... Ah, the old "search in vain for a replacement and complain that this generation doesn't want to work" gambit. Interesting... Not.
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