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Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Post by Thorrez »

minton wrote: post #673
protonimitate wrote: post #172

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Same thing happened to me at my last company. I was over worked, wore too many hats, and was paid significantly less than my team mates who were more junior than I was (and had less responsibility). I had a handful of conversations that never amounted to anything. As soon as I put in my notice with a new offer in hand suddenly I was able to "set my price". I left for other reasons as well, but it really shone a light…

IC = independent contractor?

Individual contributor. So writing code yourself, not managing other people.

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Post by runako »

liketochill wrote: post #647
runako wrote: post #620

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You answer your question in your post: > $150/hour as a dev That's about $25k/mo gross. Minus ~50% for taxes and vacation (hourly pay means you buy your vacation). So call it $13k net. > housing costs $1m+ If you live in a top 10 major metro in the US, this is your city. So call housing ~$4k if you have a family. Now you're at $9k. Buy health insurance for $1500, tally at $7500. Did you mean to save 15% of your gross…

Where I live a single family home starts at 1.3 million and townhouses are 1.2 CAD, in a town of 20,000 45 minutes from a major city. $150 an hour is a charge out rate for a professional engineer not in programming or IT, and trades are closer to $100. $150/hr on salary you probably are in business consulting with a phd and charge out at $400/hr. $9k usd/mo after paying taxes and for housing is not something that’s r…

I was being generous to the poster, but also I was assuming hourly was not salary but rather a contract/freelance rate.

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Post by lostcolony »

granshaw wrote: post #524
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #224

One of the good things that I think happened from the pandemic is that more and more people are realizing that tying up your identity and sense of self-worth in your job is a bad thing, that's why I'm very glad to see compensation so high on this list. Sure, everyone wants to work in a good working environment, but I think the idea that "nobody left because of the money" is finally being put to bed. The fact is that…

To expand on this, when can we stop asking “so what do you do?” as one of the first things when meeting someone for the first time?

It's hard to ask broader questions without it feeling awkward though; "what do you do" is so cliched it's "approved" small talk. Whereas something like "what are your hobbies" or "what do you dream of doing" or "what motivates you" feels very personal. There are some in betweens, but they all will likely be interpreted to mean job in the same way that "what do you do" is interpreted that way (despite being open ended).

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Post by tock »

eng1 wrote: post #640
tock wrote: post #628

Early employee at Unicorn startup here. Leaving because of bad pay, opaque management and lack of stock refreshers. They even screwed over esops by not allowing people to exercise their vested stocks until very recently. Couple that with insane workload and I'm just too burnt out. So are most of the early team. Stayed this long because of sunk cost fallacy. But it's time now :(

If you’re looking for solid pay + work life balance send me a message. Working in fintech

How do I contact you?

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Post by ipaddr »

TheRealWatson wrote: post #509
coldcode wrote: post #132

Rather than look for another job I retired at 63.5. My job was long hours, high stress, high visibility, continuous deadlines and changes that never ended at a large non FAANG company. Compensation was OK (not FAANG but OK for where I am). Everything I or my team shipped worked great; but lots of things with these challenges never shipped for political/idiotic reasons. So much budget was wasted on Exec whims and fant…

I love software engineering and working with other coders. That said, the second I'm able to retire comfortably, I won't bat an eye. I might still decide to work on something but very not primarily software. Maybe I'll teach, work on something more manual or do volunteer work. Thankfully my wife doesn't read HN.

I hear this a lot. Curious what languages did you program in?

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Post by simplestats »

creato wrote: post #503
simplestats wrote: post #262

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> Inflation is insipid. You _must_ take risk with your funds just to not lose the value of it. This certainly seems to be the case, but it's fustrating. I can think of no fundamental reason why it should be so. Other than speculators and govt policies backfiring to destroy the safety of alternative places to keep your money besides cash.

I think it's weird that people expect to just be able to just watch a pile of cash and have it maintain value indefinitely (or even grow in value). Every other resource you could trade for that money would decay over time.

Ah. No that's not what I meant. Option #1 is risk the money. Option #2 is sit on cash. You forgot about option #3: invest it somewhere that is both not risky and safe from inflation. Institutional investors have hedging strategies that achieve this. For us little people, there used to be crappy govt bonds that would safely give you the inflation rate more or less. Now they give you negative returns while inflation climbs. And of course the traditional hedges like real estate and precious metals are sky-high and dominated by speculators.

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Post by simplestats »

reedjosh wrote: post #651
creato wrote: post #638

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Yes, as would anything else . That's the point.

Well, real estate, gold, and bitcoin don't.

govt bonds aren't generally expected to decay over time either. But I suppose they are these days.

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Post by preseinger »

brodouevencode wrote: post #421

I left my previous job of nearly eight years last month. Leadership decided to force vaccine mandates (the you-get-the-vaccine-or-we-terminate-you kind) in August with a deadline of mid-October. I was sort of on the fence about getting the jab but ultimately decided to leave because mandates cross a line. I ultimately got vaccinated, just long enough to keep that role until I found something new. My current employer…

Being "on the fence" about getting vaccinated is incoherent and irrational. Vaccine mandates are long overdue and deeply appreciated.

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Post by johnisgood »

daenz wrote: post #54

I'll be departing my job at the end of the month. I had too many roles, affecting too many pieces of engineering, and my title didn't reflect my work. I needed to go down to a 4 day work week and have my title reflect my roles, but my manager attempted to call my bluff and essentially said it's not going to happen. I hinted about what my decision would have to be if these accomodations couldn't be made, but he didn't…

This happens virtually everywhere. I hate it. This is such a common experience with any sort of providers as well. I called up my ISP because the internet speed was worse than what I was paying for. They "fixed" it. So far so good, but there were times when they did not want to do this, they tried to "rationalize" it away using bullshit pseudo-technical sentences thinking that they are talking to someone who knows nothing about computers and networking. Anyways, I told them that I am going to switch to another ISP, and after that they fixed it. I finally got what I am paying them for. Imagine how many people are not... without knowing about it!

Plus what you said specifically happened to my mother. Her employer knows that my mother is one of the best she has as an employee. My mother asked her employer for a higher salary, she refused, but after my mother said that she will be looking for other jobs because the work is too much for too little, she immediately was willing to negotiate a higher price.

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Post by notimetorelax »

temporallobe wrote: post #652

Wish I had seen this thread earlier, as this will get burried now. Oh well, here it goes: I am seriously considering leaving my current position as a lead developer because I am basically taking on the role and tasking of SCRUM master, architect, build engineer, DB admin, UI/UX consultant, technical writer, and not to mention - developer! I often find myself writing unit tests until 11 or 12 because I am stuck in mee…

I recently realized that changing projects, and if it’s not possible within a company, then companies is a very healthy thing. And it’s healthy exactly because you get to drop all that baggage you were carrying and start fresh.
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