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Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Something that I have observed anecdotally is the pandemic increased employee turnover and that turnover coupled with feet dragging to replace open vacancies created more turnover at many companies.

When the pandemic first hit there was a resolve: "We will chip in and all do extra and help the company get through this." That works for awhile, like how crunch works on a short term basis, but only if it is short term. However, when months turn to years and people find themselves doing their job and the job of their colleagues who left for higher pay over a year ago and the company that they put so much into when the company was in need now seems content to not rehire or promote it causes frustration, burnout, and eventually even more more turnover.

So, yes, pay. But also what that pay represents. A company, especially a corporation in a capitalist society only speaks one language and that is the language of money. If the company underpays an employee based on their market value what that company is signaling is that they do not respect the employee.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Actually I just started a new job, and it's been a nearly two months now and I'm really not sure if I want to continue working their or not. I've tried to give it a chance and thinking, "Oh, it's just different to my last place". My new place is very heavy on the time metrics, which I think is the reason for me not feeling it. I'd worked on smaller tickets for a couple of sprints, and then this sprint was happy that…

It's ok to check in with your old manager. (hey wanna get lunch? hows it going? etc) I went back to an old job after 9 months after having lunch with my old manager. I got a 25% raise out of it in total. I saw the grass wasn't greener and I came back to the job that I wanted when I had left originally. I was able to move up quite well after I came back, there was no harbored doubts.

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I'll be departing my job at the end of the month. I had too many roles, affecting too many pieces of engineering, and my title didn't reflect my work. I needed to go down to a 4 day work week and have my title reflect my roles, but my manager attempted to call my bluff and essentially said it's not going to happen. I hinted about what my decision would have to be if these accomodations couldn't be made, but he didn't…

Same thing happened to me at my last company. I was over worked, wore too many hats, and was paid significantly less than my team mates who were more junior than I was (and had less responsibility). I had a handful of conversations that never amounted to anything. As soon as I put in my notice with a new offer in hand suddenly I was able to "set my price". I left for other reasons as well, but it really shone a light…

IC = independent contractor?

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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A mix of a few things really: - All the coworkers who I was more friendly with left the team/company and now I've been feeling completely detached from the team. - the stock run-up has provided me with a (false?) sense of more financial independence. - a handful of life crisis with a dash of imposter syndrome. Zero idea what I want to be doing with my life but being stuck as low level IC for a long time is hurting my…

stock run-up? Hasn't the market been sideways since November (Asking for my own edification/portfolio)?

I suspect they're thinking longer term than 3 months. The S&P returned nearly 29% in 2021, 18% in 2020 and 38% in 2019. That is doubling your money (nominally) in 3 years which is fantastic compared to the averages.

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There was a huge disconnect between management at the top and those on the ground. I think some managers never learnt to correctly judge workload and responsibilities. They we're rewarding those with minor responsibilities for achieving goals and harshly punishing those with huge responsibilities for minor misses. This inability to judge workload and responsibilities was previously hidden by people's presence in the…

At least in large enterprise software world, I have noticed in recent years that managers are starting to offload everything to the individual contributors. For example, in the early 2000s when I started my career I remember managers would do project management and interface with other teams, among other things. I've started that at least in my last 3 positions, managers will typically offload this work to engineers,…

I have seen the same as well. It also causes the managers to be disconnected from the realities of the team. Since they've delegated most everything, they don't need to pay attention and are free to go play politics with the other managers and senior leadership. This then leads to poor decision making by the managers when they actually need to make decisions.

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Too many roles / too many hats is far too common and why I find it hard to stay anywhere more than 4-5 years. As a senior IC in a super-flat & growing org.. I'm almost like a customer successs engineer, product manager, scrum master, senior developer and tech lead all rolled into one. Management administrivia I accumulate administrative things my manager doesn't want to do & pushes down I do unofficially own a part o…

What you're describing is a Staff or Principal Engineer title and should be compensated accordingly.

Not even. This is far past what is expected of a staff, senior staff, or even principal engineer. This is a full-on technical cofounder, or hybrid cto/vpoe.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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Yes, if you live in Canada and work remotely for a US company.

What percentage of developers in Canada do you believe are making >= 150$/hour? People generally aren't that forthcoming with salaries but I'm not sure if I know anyone making >= 200k/year CAD. Am I in a bubble and should go job hunting?

150/h is around 320k a year no? 200k a year is doable, even for Canadian companies

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20-30% ?? What kind of money are you assuming most people make. at anything over 100k a year that is a lot of extra money anything less and it is probably needed. It could simply be used to retire a few years earlier if nothing else. It could pay for vacation. It could pay off a vehicle. It could pay down a mortgage or appraisal gap in this market. A 20% raise is huge at any income level.

Except that it isn't. Assume you are a superstar of some persuasion and you earn $100M/yr. Is a 20% raise a lot of money? It's not! Sure, it's an extra twenty million dollars , but what could you possibly want to buy with that money that you can't already purchase? At some point $100k --> $100M the math changes. That point will be different for different people.

Expenses always rise to meet income.

Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?

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> I'm almost like a customer successs engineer, product manager, scrum master, senior developer and tech lead all rolled into one. This is also me. Except I really like it. But I'm not sure what to do about it, it can reflect super poorly on a resume for some reason. "Oh, your applying to be a Senior Engineer? Look at all this product management and developer manager experience on your resume, you must not really be…

Make multiple resumes and leave off details that aren't relevant (or are counter-productive) to the job you're applying for.

I believe there was a post on here recently that talked about a person leaving _off_ experience he had on his resume and end up getting _more_ callbacks.
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