New theory proposes ‘forgetting’ is a form of learning
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#3The heaviest alcohol drinkers in my society are university students. Seems like a correlation.
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#4The heaviest alcohol drinkers in my society are university students. Seems like a correlation.
May be important to note that "hyper indoctrination" vs. memorizing too much at once leads to rigidity or inefficiency and recall - and so breaking down those walls a bit may allow info to be more easily accessed; e.g. alcohol makes someone "looser" - their stable pathways for memorization that have been developed over an open mind (neural network) vs. critical thinking development [where there aren't lists to memorize but you're exposed instead to concepts, patterns, and frameworks - and naturally you remember automatically because there's enough interest when you're reading it (and strength of importance derived from the underlying interconnectivity/passion, vs. forcing yourself to memorize because it's on a test).
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#5And people with PTSD and anxiety have problem with sorting what to forget. It may be just that troubled mind cannot forget because it thinks that this one bad thing is important, even when in grand scheme of things it isn’t. Maybe that is why psychedelics help people with ptsd, it rewires the importance of memories. Just my drunken 2c.
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#6That's great. I've always thought forgetting was a key part of learning. When you are learning something, you pick up a lot of bad habits. Part of learning is forgetting those bad habits so they don't override the good habits. This is why you want to start slowly and work up to a faster speed, so you can make sure you're practicing good habits. If you try to go fast at the start, you will be going too fast to control what you're doing and will drill bad habits into your muscle memory instead. It can be really hard to get rid of those bad habits after they've cemented.
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#7That's great. I've always thought forgetting was a key part of learning. When you are learning something, you pick up a lot of bad habits. Part of learning is forgetting those bad habits so they don't override the good habits. This is why you want to start slowly and work up to a faster speed, so you can make sure you're practicing good habits. If you try to go fast at the start, you will be going too fast to control…
Exactly, I have noticed this same pattern and came to the same conclusions, but not only are you forgetting the 'bad habits' you're also integrating micro habits/skills into more general ones with this same process. In short: adding noise to noise/signal ratio can enhance the type and strength of signal.
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#8I wonder if this is related to the effect of being better at something after not doing it for a while.
When it comes to a lot of things I do repetitively, I notice that there comes a point where either my skill doesn't improve or I actually get worse at what I'm doing. Then I'll take a day or more off, and when I come back suddenly I'm a total boss. The brain probably needs rest time to throw out the bad input and that can't happen as much during execution.
Re: New theory proposes ‘forgetting’ is a form of learning
#9I wonder if this is related to the effect of being better at something after not doing it for a while. When it comes to a lot of things I do repetitively, I notice that there comes a point where either my skill doesn't improve or I actually get worse at what I'm doing. Then I'll take a day or more off, and when I come back suddenly I'm a total boss. The brain probably needs rest time to throw out the bad input and th…
An old mentor of mine once said some thing I found very profound: “Learning is like eating; you can choose what you consume. But knowing is like digesting; it will happen regardless, and in its own time. You only have control over eating, so eat well and frequently”
There’s really a little leap of faith any time we want to learn something, because we don’t actually control how or when it fits into our brain or body, just that if we keep trying that it will.
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#10That's great. I've always thought forgetting was a key part of learning. When you are learning something, you pick up a lot of bad habits. Part of learning is forgetting those bad habits so they don't override the good habits. This is why you want to start slowly and work up to a faster speed, so you can make sure you're practicing good habits. If you try to go fast at the start, you will be going too fast to control…
Yes. An old weightlifting coach I had would say this. Every time you practice a lift you do some of the “right” things every time. And some of the “wrong” things too. But there are many more ways to be wrong than right so the right things start to reinforce. And then you take a break and your body starts to forget the movements. But the diffusely learned wrong things dissipate faster so you’re left with more right than wrong. Over many cycles of this you learn the right way to perform the movements.